<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Putz, como disse a algum tempo atrás, estou velho pra flames ... mesmo tendo 35 anos, tenho o corpo e cabeça de 60 ... 300mg/dia de morfina + 40mg/dia de metadona são fantásticas para causar esse efeito. Recomendo!</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Não vou mais responder, exceto se convencido ao contrário ... rsrsrs</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Bom, como diria Jack, vamos por partes:</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default">
<font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">1. Não me referi a você ou a seu trabalho em especifico Giovanni, me referi a gambiarras em geral, infelizmente o chan_dongle é a bola da vez. Sobre a sua oferta, gostaria muito de aceitar, mas eu não consegui convencer nenhum colega que assumiu meus clientes a colocar em produção, para um teste real. Em laboratório não acredito que tenha muita serventia, além disse estou atarefado com 5 equipamentos de 3 fabricantes. Se mesmo assim achar interessante, vamos lá.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">2. Vamos definir &quot;gambiarra&quot;: </font></div><div class="gmail_default">
<font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">2.1. Segundo a Wikipédia: <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px">(Subst. Fem.) No Brasil, o significado predominante seria &quot;improvisação&quot;. ... O termo &quot;gambiarra&quot; costuma ser usado também como adjetivo, significando &quot;precário&quot;, &quot;feio&quot;, &quot;tosco&quot;, &quot;mal acabado&quot;. </span></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px">2.2. Segundo o Michaelis: </span><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Ribalta de luzes na parte anterior e superior dos palcos. </span><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0)">2</span><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Serviço elétrico malfeito, especialmente com a finalidade de obter energia elétrica de maneira ilegal.</span></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">2.3. Segundo o Marcio: Improvisação, utilização de equipamentos fora da especificação ou proposito original, produto sem estabilidade/segurança/garantia.</font></span></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000">3. Por favor, não sei o que é pior, GoIP e mais meia dúzia de tranqueiras chinesas. Isso não é parâmetro para comparação. A concepção inicial do GoIP é puramente para explorar o mercado de SMS Pirata, nada mais. Ah, ele é uma gambiarra industrializada ... rsrsrs</font></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><br></font></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000">4. Na comparação de processo industrial X artesanal, basicamente é isso. Mas suprimiram alguns fatores e informações muito importantes: qualidade dos componentes utilizados, projeto e equipe de engenheiros dedicados ao desenvolvimento do produto, e principalmente continuidade e padronização do hardware. O oposto do chan_dongle, que com outro colega mesmo disse, usa-se o pen-modem disponível!</font></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><br></font></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000">5. Sim, tudo é modem GSM, mas cada um foi projetado para um tipo de uso, para um perfil. Da mesma forma que existem capacitores melhores e piores, existem modens GSM melhores e piores. No mundo existem poucos fabricantes realmente de modem GSM, dá pra contar nos dedos, e a maioria deles tem os de primeira linha, de segunda linha e de terceira linha, além dos perfis de uso. Ai vai do fabricante do gateway usar o adequado. Assim é com todas as outras partes.</font></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><br></font></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000">6. Sim, tem um monte de fabricantes que usam tudo pronto e só colocam a marca, e são facilmente identificáveis. Eu não uso esse tipo de produto. </font></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><br></font></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000">7. Fazendo uma analogia a qualidade dos componentes, placas, modens e etc. Sabe aquele pneu de carro 175x70R14? Pois é, do mesmo fabricante com as mesmas medidas você encontra de diferentes valores, e sabe porque? Cada um foi feito para um perfil de uso, vai de você colocar o adequado no seu carro para o seu uso. Se você colocar o inadequado ele pode durar menos, não conseguir frear corretamente, não ter a estabilidade necessária e por ai vai, mas vai rodar.</font></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><br></font></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000">8. Com certeza absoluta todos, sem exceção, os pen-modens usados pelo chan_dongle usam modens GSM baratos, para perfil de uso doméstico onde não há exigência de qualidade, ou mesmo se ele parar, no máximo vai aborrecer o usuário, não vai causar prejuízos financeiros. E com mais certeza ainda não foi projetado para alta carga e operação continua. Ao contrário dos gateways, que pelo menos deveriam usar os de primeira linha com perfil voltado a alta carga e operação continua, os chamados industriais. Sabemos que muitos não o fazem, ai vai de você conhecer o equipamento.</font></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><br></font></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000">9. Sempre, desde o começo, usei equipamentos profissionais. Volto a repetir, o cliente que precisa de 16 canais GSM e não tem 12-13 mil pra pagar em um gateway profissional, tem algo errado!</font></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><br></font></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000">10. Até concordo que as margens de lucro dos fabricantes muitas vezes são abusivas. Um modem GSM de primeira linha em escala não custa mais de USD$40,00. Então porque um módulo custa USD$350,00? Parte desse valor é lucro, outra parte é custo de pesquisa, desenvolvimento e produção, mas um fatia bem grande é para o chamado &quot;Seguro de Responsabilidade Civil&quot;. Trocando em miúdos e a reserva que a empresa faz para caso cause prejuízos para um cliente e seja condenada judicialmente a ressarci-lo. Algumas contratam esse seguro, outras simplesmente embutem isso como custo de produção.</font></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><br></font></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000">Certa vez surgiu a oportunidade de entrar diretamente em um </font></font><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">cliente de grande porte, o primeiro. Ele usava Avaya com 600 PAs e precisava ampliar/modernizar. Me apresentaram ao diretor de tecnologia e depois de muito telefone e e-mail ele resolveu me dar uma chance, marcou uma reunião para eu apresentar o projeto. A única coisa que ele disse: &quot;se exitar ou gaguejar uma vez que seja, está fora.&quot; Cheguei na reunião com um projeto/proposta da solução completa por 1/8 do preço da Avaya. Me colocaram em uma sala de reuniões sentado sozinho em um lado da mesa, em uma cabeceira estava o diretor de tecnologia e na outra o vice-presidente, do outro lado da mesa uns 10 técnicos/engenheiros. Passei por uma sabatina de 4 horas, estava quase tendo um colapso, até então o vice-presidente, um senhor de uns 50-60 anos, não tinha dado uma única palavra, fica só reclinado na cadeira escutando. Depois de 4 horas aproximadamente ele encostou na mesa, interrompeu e disse: &quot;já vi que tecnicamente ninguém nessa sala vai conseguir te contestar, nem mesmo aquele ali da ponta que é o engenheiro da Avaya responsável pelo projeto. Até agora você não gaguejou, não ficou em dúvida ou deixou de responder qualquer questão. Não estou propenso a fechar com a Avaya porque acho que a sua solução não funcione, pelo contrário, ou porque a deles seja melhor, ou porque é mais cara ou porque eles são mais bonitos. Se eu contratar a Avaya e tiver algum problema eu irei processa-la e sei que ela terá capital para arcar com as prováveis indenizações. E se eu contratar a sua, quem irei processar? Pelo que entendi há pelo menos quatro fornecedores envolvidos. Irei processar você, o responsável pela solução! Agora me diga, você tem capital para suportar um processos desses? Tem ideia de quanto custa o minuto parado de nossa operação? Acho que não!&quot;</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Fiquei parado, não sabia o que responder. Após uns 30 segundos de pausa que parece que duraram 30 minutos, ele continuou: &quot;Me apresente uma apólice de responsabilidade civil de meio milhão por 36 meses, em 72 horas, e o projeto é seu.&quot;. Eu só respondi: &quot;Fechado!&quot;, sem ter a menor ideia de quanto custava isso. Ele levantou e saiu da sala junto com a maioria. O engenheiro da Avaya saiu rindo, pois provavelmente sabia o custo disso. O diretor de tecnologia só me disse: &quot;Boa sorte, você vai precisar!&quot;</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Sai de lá já correndo atrás, quando recebi os primeiros orçamentos quase infartei. Faltando umas 3 horas para o prazo esgotar consegui fechar com uma seguradora que já enviou a apólice direto pra eles e eu fechei o contrato. Hoje eles são o meu único cliente direto ainda, mas só presto consultoria, não entra um parafuso lá sem meu aval.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Sabe quanto me custou o seguro? Quase 2x o meu lucro no projeto! Pois é, tive um enorme prejuízo. E o que eu mais queria eu não pude fazer, usa-los como vitrine. Mandei o meu contrato de meras 5 páginas, uma semana depois o jurídico deles me devolveu com quase 50 páginas e com um recadinho: &quot;Nem pense em querer tirar ou colocar algo!&quot;. Dessas 50 páginas, umas 5 eram dedicadas ao maldito NDA, mais umas 5 as consequências de quebra-lo! Ou seja, nunca pude citar o nome deles ou qualquer aspecto técnico da solução, exceto que usam &quot;Asterisk&quot; e tem mais de 1.500 PAs ativas, hoje. Eles me trouxeram muitos outros clientes, mas por iniciativa deles.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Ou seja, o &quot;quanto custa&quot;  a solução é um dos fatores de menor peso para o médio e grande porte, e até menos para o pequeno, que é administrado e não empurrado com a barriga.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Nunca passei a mão em cabeça de fabricante ou fornecedor, e sempre fui muito criterioso nas homologações para todos os clientes. E como a Khomp foi citada nos seus &quot;primórdios&quot; ... rsrsrs</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Conhecia a Khomp de nome, mais nunca tinha usado. Um dia resolvi comprar um EBS GSM (lançamento) para uma parceria. Logo de cara, nos primeiros testes, me estranhei com o channel. Cheguei a pensar em devolver. Em uma conf com o pessoal do desenvolvimento, nos estranhamos mais ainda, pois disse que o channel não era estável, era um beta ou algo do tipo. Foram ríspidos comigo e eu com eles. Implementaram alguns requisitos e fiquei com o equipamento.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Na sequencia tive a infeliz ideia de envia-lo para esse cliente ai de cima. O tal seguro quase me fez falta. De vários problemas, na última vez o famigerado channel derrubou parte da operação, o estrago só não maior pela forma como o ambiente foi implementado e opera. Umas 300 PAs ficaram indisponíveis por exatos 72 segundos e caiu mais umas 100 ligações. Foi o suficiente pra eu receber uma ligação do vice-presidente perguntando se eu ainda tinha o seguro, pois se o problema se repetisse novamente eu precisaria dele, e que só não iria precisar agora em homenagem aos últimos 5 anos de serviços irretocáveis. </font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Uns 3 dias depois recebi o equipamento de volta por sedex a cobrar com um bilhete do diretor de tecnologia: &quot;Em consideração a nossa amizade e aos últimos 5 anos, nunca mais me mande um produto desse fabricante. Nem arruela!&quot;</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Ha alguns meses estou testando pelo menos uma dezena de updates do channel e estou com uma versão nova do EBS. Chegamos a passar 2 semanas rodando testes com pacotes específicos do channel para debug, tentando identificar os bugs e corrigi-los.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Não falei mais com a pessoa que achou ruim quando disse que o channel não era estável, e hoje tenho certeza que não era. Mas depois de uma conversa produtiva com um dos diretores, as coisas estão fluindo mais, estamos interagindo mais e consequentemente os problemas vem sendo identificados e corrigidos.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Ainda tem muito coisa a ser feita, e sinceramente ainda não tenho segurança em mandar um produto deles para um ambiente de grande porte. Eles tem vários outros produtos impares no mercado, mas hoje tenho um pé atrás. Acho que falta um programa de &quot;beta-testers&quot; e mais tempo em desenvolvimento. Pelo menos componentes de qualidade eles usam, e não dá pra comparar com gambiarras ou mesmo GoIP da vida.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Mas eles tem estrutura para isso e podem melhorar! Tem gente dedicada a isso, recebendo salário para isso! Falta abrir a cabeça um pouco. Tem pessoas excelentes lá, o profissional que tenho contato direito é muito bom. Apesar do começo ruim, é um dos fornecedores que estou apostando para um projeto que está no formo.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">É o chan_dongle e seus pen-modens?</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#000000">Se eu tivesse sido processado pelo cliente, teria levando a Khomp junto. E se fosse o chan_dongle com os modens Huawei? Ia coloca a Huawei no meio? Ou o Makhutov e o Vagin? A Huawei n</font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">o mínimo iria rir e simplesmente contra-argumentar que o produto não é para isso, e não é mesmo. No máximo eles iriam me processar por ter debloqueado o uso de voz, alegando patentes e segredos industriais.</span></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Alguns vão dizer que deve ter uns 5 callcenters desse porte no país! Eu vou repetir que o cliente que quer usar 16 canais GSM e não tem 12-13 mil para comprar um equipamento profissional tem que fechar as portas! Porque com certeza não tem pra isso, mas tem pra trocar de carro, reformar a casa, viajar e etc.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Brasileiro tem que parar com esse negócio de &quot;jeitinho&quot;.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Usar chan_dongle + pen-modens em casa ou no escritório para uma, duas linhas no máximo, onde se o sistema tiver que ser reiniciado ou ficar fora por 10-20 minutos não vai afetar nada, tudo bem. Acho que é inclusive esse o objetivo do chan_dongle.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Agora, como está sendo colocado e feito propaganda, de colocar 10-20 pen-modens pendurados em um hub USB para aguentar a carga de um callcenter, me poupe, é demais pra mim. Isso pra mim ultrapassa o conceito de gambiarra.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Por último, o projeto está praticamente abandonado (um ano se atualizações) e tem vários issues pendentes. Até andei analisando o source e pensei em mexer, mas da forma que as coisa andam larguei de mão. Amanha ou depois vou ser processado por culpa de um &quot;sem noção&quot;. Sem contar que acho que o negócio está sendo desvirtuado a ponto de acabar prejudicando fabricantes sérios e profissionais, e não vou compactuar com isso.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">UFÁ, consegui terminar de redigir, após umas 7 horas ... kkkkkkkk</font></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Em 30 de agosto de 2013 10:12, Asterisk - Junior Polegato <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:asterisk@juniorpolegato.com.br" target="_blank">asterisk@juniorpolegato.com.br</a>&gt;</span> escreveu:<br>
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    Olá!<br>
    <br>
            Outro fator importante, em se falando de valores, estão
    esquecendo de somar impostos INSS, FGTS, Férias, 13º, sindicato,
    entre outros benefícios dos funcionários, ISS, ICMS, IPI, ST, PIS,
    COFINS, IRPJ, contabilidade entre outros para a Empresa, além do
    custo operacional como telefone, energia elétrica, aluguel,
    manutenção, etc. Além disso teria o imposto de importação e
    companhia na importação do Alix ou outro.<br>
    <br>
            Não esquecendo que é uma empresa e visa lucro, não dá então
    para comparar valores chan_dongle com produtos comerciais.<br>
    <br>
            Agora qualidade técnica, fiquei impressionando, coloquei um
    modem E156B no meu note de desenvolvimento, desbloqueei a voz e saí
    usando. Somente tive que alterar o código para suportar PDU/GSM e
    USSD nesse modelo e pronto, funciona tudo! E funciona muito bem!<br>
    <br>
            Se alguém abrir uma empresa, uma caixa bonita (marketing),
    suporte 24h e garantia, e reduzir o lucro para o valor ficar abaixo
    do mercado, vai fazer dinheiro com certeza!<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    []&#39;s<br>
             Junior Polegato<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Em <a href="tel:30-08-2013" value="+5530082013" target="_blank">30-08-2013</a> 10:32, Alexandre Cavalcante Alencar escreveu:
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      <div dir="ltr">Pessoal,
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        </div>
        <div>NOTA: Não descrevo todas as etapas do processo, apenas de
          forma bem genérica e de alto nível ao interesse da discussão.
          As especificidades competem exclusivamente a aqueles que
          empreenderão na fabricação em escala de produtos.</div>
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        <div>Aos profissionais e amadores:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Como um gateway profissional é feito:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Pega-se N módulos GSM, uma interface de controle, uma fonte
          e um gabinete, monta-se tudo de forma que o conjunto funcione
          adequadamente ao propósito estabelecido e comercializa-se.
          Tudo isso partiu de um protótipo, com módulos soltos, fios da
          fonte de alimentação conectados de forma simples, etc...</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Como um gateway amador é feito:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Pega-se N módulos GSM (no formato de um modem 3G, que nada
          mais é que um módulo GSM num gabinete de propósito definido),
          uma interface (hub usb/servidor), uma fonte de alimentação
          (hub usb), monta-se da forma mais adequada ao ambiente onde
          será instalado e comercializa-se.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Qual a diferença?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>No dito profissional, existe um processo de fabricação em
          escala, depois que o protótipo passou por sua fase de
          construção, que insere um gabinete bonito, pintado,
          padronizado, com componentes padronizados (módulos gsm, fonte,
          gabinete, interface de controle, etc).</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>No dito amador, existe um processo artesanal, construindo
          cada instalação à sua própria forma, com pouca ou nenhuma
          padronização (devido à característica artesanal), com módulos
          diversos (aquele modem que está mais acessível/disponível ou
          cujas experiências passadas foram positivas), interfaces
          (hubs/distro/asterisk) diversas, fontes (hubs) diversas e
          processos de montagem diversos.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Basicamente, o artesanal deixará de ser chamado assim
          quando começar sua produção em escala, com componentes
          padronizados, com uma marca e proprietária que possa
          suportá-los.</div>
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        <div>Alexandre Alencar<br>
          Twitter @alexandreitpro<br>
          <div><a href="http://blog.alexandrealencar.net/" target="_blank">http://blog.alexandrealencar.net/</a><br>
            <a href="http://www.alexandrealencar.net/" target="_blank">http://www.alexandrealencar.net/</a></div>
          <div><a href="http://www.alexandrealencar.com" target="_blank">http://www.alexandrealencar.com</a></div>
          <div><a href="http://www.servicosdeti.com.br/" target="_blank">http://www.servicosdeti.com.br/</a></div>
          <div>COBIT, ITIL, CSM, LPI, MCP-I<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/30 Sylvio Jollenbeck <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sylvio.jollenbeck@gmail.com" target="_blank">sylvio.jollenbeck@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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            <div dir="ltr">Hudson,
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              </div>
              <div>   Concordo com a sua opinião. um produto só se torna
                estável, maduro e seguro quando alguem, mesmo que apenas
                Um, acredite na ideia. Um solução com 16 dongle custa o
                preço de 1 placa gsm com 4 canais no brasil. Eu acredito
                que se juntos, não na visão de usuários, mas na visão de
                desenvolvedores, podemos usar o dongle sem qualquer
                problema, trocar experiencias. etc.</div>
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              </div>
              <div>Abs,</div>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">Em 30 de agosto de 2013 10:02,
                Hudson Cardoso <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:hudsoncardoso@hotmail.com" target="_blank">hudsoncardoso@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                escreveu:
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                  <div><br>
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                        <div dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">   Não gosto muito de
                            participar  de debates &quot;Flames&quot;, mas....</font>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3"><br>
                            </font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">   Há muito tempo atrás, uns 12
                              anos eu acho, conheci uma empresa pequena,
                              tipo fundo de garagem,</font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">um monte de tralha espalhada
                              pelas mesas, dois malucos soldando
                              &quot;pecinhas&quot;, e um magrelo alto tentando</font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">me empurrar uma solução que seria
                              o futuro da Telecom, assim nascia a KOMP,</font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">   Nunca usei uma Komp na minha
                              vida por causa de imagem que tive, so
                              Digivoice, ate que no mes passado,</font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">fui convidado a conhecer os
                              produtos dela.</font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">   Mudei completamente minha
                              idéia, placas muto bem feitas(antes eram
                              muito grandes), ambiente limpo,
                              organizado,</font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">ao nível de Digium.</font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">   Agora me pergunto, eles não
                              começaram assim ? como um dongle da vida?</font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">   A diferença entre fornecer uma
                              gambiarra e um produto sólido, é se ele
                              atende o cliente, com qualidade e preparo</font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">técnico, já fiz isso muitas
                              vezes, pra solucionar o problema do
                              cliente, mas deixava ele bem ciente disso,
                              se o</font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">cara tem consciência de que tá
                              comprado algo fundo de quintal, não vejo
                              problema, mas usar essa artimanha</font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">em uma venda profissional, é no
                              mínimo desonesto, nefasto e desleal.</font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">   Vou até comprar um pra fazer
                              teste aqui em casa, como conhecimento,
                              qual deles vai ser, ou </font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">quanto tempo esse trem vai durar?
                              não sei, mas o cliente tem que ciência
                              completa do que se trata.</font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3"><br>
                            </font></div>
                          <div><font style="font-size:12pt" face="Arial" size="3">   Esse é meu ponto de vista.<br>
                            </font><br>
                            <br>
                            <pre style="line-height:17px;color:rgb(42,42,42);white-space:normal">Hudson 
<a href="tel:%28048%29%208413-7000" value="+554884137000" target="_blank">(048) 8413-7000</a>
Para quem nao cre, nenhuma prova converte,Para aquele que cre, nenhuma prova precisa. </pre>
                            <br>
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                            <div>
                              <hr>Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 09:38:17 -0300<br>
                              From: <a href="mailto:jersonjunior@bsd.com.br" target="_blank">jersonjunior@bsd.com.br</a>
                              <div>
                                <div><br>
                                  To: <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                                  Subject: Re: [AsteriskBrasil] Gatway
                                  com chan_dongle<br>
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                                    Chan_dongle arrebenta!!<br>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div>Em 30 de agosto de 2013
                                            00:22, Miqueias Queiroz
                                            Decco <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:miqueiasdecco@hotmail.com" target="_blank">miqueiasdecco@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                            escreveu:<br>
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                                                <div dir="ltr">É certo
                                                  que se não fossem
                                                  esses testes,
                                                  estaríamos ainda no
                                                  mundo do PABX e o
                                                  asterisk jamais sairia
                                                  do papel.
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                                                    <br>
                                                    Miqueias Decco<br>
                                                    <br>
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                                                      <div>
                                                        <hr>Date: Thu,
                                                        29 Aug 2013
                                                        19:22:44 -0300<br>
                                                        From: <a href="mailto:otavioasterisk@gmail.com" target="_blank">otavioasterisk@gmail.com</a><br>
                                                        To: <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                                                        Subject: Re:
                                                        [AsteriskBrasil]
                                                        Gatway com
                                                        chan_dongle<br>
                                                        <br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">
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                                                          <div>Boa noite
                                                          lista.<br>
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                                                          Márcio, sou um
                                                          feliz cliente
                                                          do Giovanni e
                                                          de seus
                                                          gateways.<br>
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                                                          Antes
                                                          utilizava
                                                          gateways da
                                                          Goip q, de um
                                                          dia pro outro,
                                                          simplesmente
                                                          pararam de
                                                          funcionar e me
                                                          deixaram na
                                                          mão.<br>
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                                                          Estou
                                                          utilizando um
                                                          Alix + 4
                                                          modens (não me
                                                          lembro o
                                                          modelo) com
                                                          teste de
                                                          portabilidade
                                                          do Udson
                                                          (brfone
                                                          telecom) e
                                                          recomendo
                                                          100%.
                                                          Qualidade de
                                                          ligações 100%,
                                                          nunca tive
                                                          travamentos ou
                                                          queda nas
                                                          ligações e
                                                          esse cenário
                                                          já está há 30
                                                          dias em
                                                          produção e
                                                          nesse período,
                                                          nenhum
                                                          problema.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Já
                                                          adquiri o
                                                          segundo
                                                          gateway, agora
                                                          com 8 modens
                                                          (e303) q está
                                                          previsto para
                                                          ser implantado
                                                          num cliente em
                                                          no máximo 15
                                                          dias, e não
                                                          tenho o menor
                                                          receio, tanto
                                                          pela
                                                          qualidade,
                                                          quanto pela
                                                          suporte q
                                                          recebo da
                                                          dupla Giovanni
                                                          e Udson.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>E fique
                                                          tranquilo pois
                                                          não tenho
                                                          interesse
                                                          nenhum em
                                                          divulgar pois
                                                          não sou
                                                          patrocinado
                                                          pelo Giovanni
                                                          muito menos
                                                          pelo Udson.
                                                          Simplesmente
                                                          acho que temos
                                                          q divulgar o q
                                                          é bom.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Antes de
                                                          adquirir o
                                                          gateway do
                                                          Giovanni, eu
                                                          montei um com
                                                          um server
                                                          rodando debian
                                                          + modem porém
                                                          tive alguns
                                                          pouquissimos
                                                          problemas com
                                                          travamento,
                                                          porém não
                                                          tendo tempo
                                                          para afinar a
                                                          configuração,
                                                          resolvi
                                                          comprar.... E
                                                          mesmo com
                                                          esses
                                                          problemas, a
                                                          qualidade da
                                                          ligação era
                                                          perfeita e não
                                                          tinha
                                                          quedas...<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Abraços a
                                                          todos...<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>Em 29 de
                                                          agosto de 2013
                                                          17:48,
                                                          Giovanni <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:giovbs@gmail.com" target="_blank">giovbs@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          escreveu:<br>
                                                          <blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Marcio,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>não
                                                          concordo
                                                          100%...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Foi eu que
                                                          montei este
                                                          gateway (<a href="http://goo.gl/sOAtB" style="font-size:13px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:arial,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none" target="_blank">goo.gl/sOAtB</a>) e este é só um teste em ambiente de
                                                          produção (e
                                                          minha
                                                          continuação do
                                                          laboratório
                                                          com Dongle).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          QUERO
                                                          EVIDENCIAR que
                                                          o cliente não
                                                          pagou e não
                                                          está pagando
                                                          nem um
                                                          centavos por
                                                          isso e não
                                                          vejo motivo
                                                          por o
                                                          empregados de
                                                          esta empresa
                                                          ser mentirosos
                                                          relatando esta
                                                          &#39;sensação&#39;
                                                          positiva que
                                                          as ligações
                                                          som melhores
                                                          dos outros
                                                          gateways que
                                                          utilizam. EU
                                                          VI
                                                          PESSOALMENTE:
                                                          os modem E303
                                                          neste caso tem
                                                          melhor
                                                          recepção de
                                                          sinal (RSSI)
                                                          dos Portech
                                                          pois os
                                                          Portech,
                                                          colocados na
                                                          mesma sala,
                                                          nem consegue
                                                          &#39;ver&#39; o sinal
                                                          da torre. Por
                                                          receber o
                                                          sinal este 12
                                                          portech MV378
                                                          (96 canais
                                                          GSM) som
                                                          montados perto
                                                          uma janela no
                                                          andar mais
                                                          alto (segundo
                                                          andar) por
                                                          assim poder
                                                          colocar as
                                                          antenas fora
                                                          da janela...
                                                          mas Modem E303
                                                          nesta sala
                                                          (andar 0) toda
                                                          fechada e sem
                                                          janelas cheia
                                                          de Rack, UPS,
                                                          torres, etc
                                                          etc tem RSSI
                                                          entre 8 e 18
                                                          conseguindo
                                                          até então
                                                          passar mais de
                                                          60.000
                                                          ligações....</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Estou
                                                          muito
                                                          cuidadoso nas
                                                          minha
                                                          declarações e
                                                          NUNCA VENDI
                                                          UMA gambiarras
                                                          em toda minha
                                                          vida...cliente
                                                          tem que ser
                                                          CIENTE de todo
                                                          e FELIZ ou nao
                                                          é mim cliente
                                                          pois não
                                                          vendo! EU não
                                                          gosto de
                                                          clientes
                                                          insatisfeitos
                                                          me cobrando!
                                                          Quem me
                                                          conhece sabe
                                                          de isso.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Vendei
                                                          algumas
                                                          soluções e
                                                          ajudei muita
                                                          gente da lista
                                                          em colocar em
                                                          teste ou
                                                          produção
                                                          chan_dongle e
                                                          afins!<br>
                                                          E som todos
                                                          satisfeitos e
                                                          CIENTES das
                                                          coisas. tenho
                                                          outros
                                                          clientes
                                                          relatando
                                                          qualidade é
                                                          melhor de
                                                          Outros...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          CLARO que eu
                                                          não vou
                                                          declarar que
                                                          seja a melhor
                                                          solução
                                                          gateway mas
                                                          garanto que
                                                          funfa bem se
                                                          lembramos de
                                                          utilizar os
                                                          devidos
                                                          coitados! </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Marcio
                                                          convido o Sr.
                                                          a montar seu
                                                          ambiente de
                                                          teste... A
                                                          qualidade é a
                                                          mesma de uma
                                                          ligação GSM
                                                          entre
                                                          celulares/smartphones
                                                          e a qualidade
                                                          não depende só
                                                          do gateway
                                                          mas também da
                                                          rede das
                                                          Operadoras e
                                                          TODOS sabemos
                                                          que não é boa
                                                          &quot;assim&quot;...
                                                          Assim se a
                                                          rede da
                                                          operadora é
                                                          RUIM qualquer
                                                          gateway GSM
                                                          irá ser ruim
                                                          incluindo os
                                                          TOP DE LINHA.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>E acho
                                                          que seria
                                                          interessante
                                                          que tivesse
                                                          alguém
                                                          tentando
                                                          melhorar este
                                                          modulo (código
                                                          fonte)
                                                          cha_dongle e
                                                          não só
                                                          criticar...Assim,
                                                          gostaria de
                                                          lhe enviar uma
                                                          Alix, um modem
                                                          E160 e o
                                                          sistema
                                                          instalado...
                                                          como presente
                                                          de
                                                          laboratório! Não
                                                          me veja a mau
                                                          é material que
                                                          tenho em mim
                                                          laboratório
                                                          (que é usado)
                                                          mas lhe doo de
                                                          vontade por
                                                          você testar e
                                                          depois me
                                                          dizer se é
                                                          gambiarra!
                                                          Pois respeito
                                                          sua pessoa e
                                                          gostaria você
                                                          testasse antes
                                                          de falar assim
                                                          mau.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Caso
                                                          aceite aguardo
                                                          seu endereço
                                                          em PVT por
                                                          encomendar.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Abraço</div>
                                                          <div>Giovanni</div>
                                                          <div>skype:
                                                          giovbs</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>Em 29 de
                                                          agosto de 2013
                                                          16:08, Marcio
                                                          - Google <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:marciorp@gmail.com" target="_blank">marciorp@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          escreveu:
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
                                                          Olha, na boa
                                                          mesmo!
                                                          Respeito quem
                                                          queira usar
                                                          gambiarras, é
                                                          escolha. Não
                                                          concordo com
                                                          isso e não
                                                          apoio.</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Agora
                                                          dizer que uma
                                                          gambiarra
                                                          dessas
                                                          funciona
                                                          melhor que
                                                          equipamento
                                                          profissionais
                                                          força a barra,
                                                          chega beirar o
                                                          ridículo.
                                                          Chega ser
                                                          falta de
                                                          respeito com
                                                          os colegas
                                                          sérios aqui da
                                                          lista!</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">É
                                                          a mesma coisa
                                                          que dizer que
                                                          pegando um
                                                          teco-teco e
                                                          pendurando
                                                          umas
                                                          metralhadoras
                                                          nele ele vai
                                                          fazer o
                                                          serviço melhor
                                                          que um F-16.</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Acho
                                                          que cada um
                                                          tem que vender
                                                          o seu peixe,
                                                          mas um pouco
                                                          de sensatez
                                                          não custa
                                                          nada!</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Assim
                                                          como eu, há
                                                          outros na
                                                          lista que
                                                          trabalham com
                                                          Asterisk/Callcenter/VoIP
                                                          há muitos anos
                                                          e em sistemas
                                                          de grande
                                                          porte. Nós
                                                          dizer isso é o
                                                          mesmo que nos
                                                          chamarmos de
                                                          burros,
                                                          ignorantes e
                                                          ladrões, por
                                                          termos feitos
                                                          nossos
                                                          clientes
                                                          gastarem
                                                          centenas de
                                                          dezenas de
                                                          reais eu
                                                          equipamentos
                                                          profissionais
                                                          enquanto meia
                                                          dúzia de
                                                          gabiarras e
                                                          aberrações há
                                                          1/10 do valor
                                                          fariam a mesma
                                                          coisa com a
                                                          mesma
                                                          estabilidade,
                                                          segurança,
                                                          disponibilidade
                                                          e qualidade.</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Porque
                                                          será que
                                                          quando
                                                          recebemos
                                                          ligações de
                                                          certos TMs
                                                          Ativos o áudio
                                                          é limpo,
                                                          nítido, não há
                                                          barulho de
                                                          fundo, não há
                                                          chiado, não há
                                                          picote?
                                                          Enquanto
                                                          outras
                                                          ligações
                                                          parece que
                                                          estamos
                                                          falando com
                                                          alguém que
                                                          está em uma
                                                          boate marciana
                                                          fazendo a
                                                          chamada por um
                                                          VoIP de
                                                          Saturno?</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Pois
                                                          é, essa é a
                                                          diferença! O
                                                          primeiro usa
                                                          equipamentos
                                                          profissionais,
                                                          com qualidade
                                                          industrial, em
                                                          ambientes
                                                          projetados e
                                                          executados por
                                                          profissionais
                                                          qualificadas!
                                                          O segundo,
                                                          bom, acho que
                                                          não preciso
                                                          detalhar!</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Já
                                                          que a lista
                                                          agora é
                                                          vitrine de
                                                          casos de
                                                          sucesso, vou
                                                          contar um de
                                                          insucesso.</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Esses
                                                          dias me
                                                          ligaram umas 5
                                                          vezes, sempre
                                                          de números
                                                          celulares
                                                          diferentes,
                                                          mas do mesmo
                                                          &quot;callcenter&quot;
                                                          oferecendo o
                                                          mesmo produto.
                                                          A ligação era
                                                          uma porcaria!
                                                          Depois da
                                                          última ligação
                                                          eu resolvi
                                                          retornar em um
                                                          dos números,
                                                          depois de umas
                                                          20 tentativas
                                                          consegui ser
                                                          atendido. As
                                                          outras 19 ou
                                                          caia, ou não
                                                          me escutava,
                                                          ou eu não
                                                          escutava, ou
                                                          chiava demais
                                                          ...</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Bom,
                                                          depois de um
                                                          papo com a
                                                          atendente
                                                          consegui que
                                                          ela me
                                                          transferisse
                                                          para o
                                                          &quot;supervisor&quot;,
                                                          que depois de
                                                          um pequeno
                                                          papo descobri
                                                          que era dono.
                                                          Conversei com
                                                          ele uns 20
                                                          minutos e
                                                          convenci ele a
                                                          me passar o
                                                          contato do
                                                          &quot;cara&quot; que
                                                          monto a
                                                          estrutura
                                                          dele, mas
                                                          nisso já tinha
                                                          alguns
                                                          detalhes,
                                                          tipo: &quot;trava
                                                          tudo umas três
                                                          vezes por
                                                          dias&quot;, &quot;as
                                                          vezes a
                                                          ligação fica
                                                          muito ruim&quot;,
                                                          &quot;de vez em
                                                          quando tem que
                                                          instalar tudo
                                                          de novo&quot;, etc.
                                                          De outro
                                                          e-mail meu
                                                          passei uma
                                                          mensagem pro
                                                          cidadão
                                                          falando quem
                                                          tinha me
                                                          indicado e
                                                          pedindo um
                                                          orçamento, não
                                                          demorou foi
                                                          respondido.</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Não
                                                          sei se fiquei
                                                          com raiva ou
                                                          com pena do
                                                          individuo. Dei
                                                          corda pra ele
                                                          e depois de
                                                          vários vai e
                                                          vem de e-mail,
                                                          ele citou até
                                                          a lista aqui
                                                          pra eu mesmo
                                                          fazer a
                                                          manutenção
                                                          tirando
                                                          dúvidas, além
                                                          de uma relação
                                                          de uns 20
                                                          clientes pra
                                                          pedir
                                                          referência.
                                                          Desses
                                                          clientes: 6 =
                                                          satisfeitos
                                                          (incluindo o
                                                          que me passou
                                                          o contato dele
                                                          e todos
                                                          confirmando os
                                                          travamentos e
                                                          etc) / 5 = com
                                                          problemas/pendências
                                                          (travamentos,
                                                          qualidade das
                                                          ligações, etc)
                                                          / 5 = Tinham
                                                          jogado a
                                                          solução no
                                                          lixo / 4 =
                                                          queriam dar
                                                          uma surra
                                                          nele.</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Ah,
                                                          ele disse que
                                                          eu iria
                                                          precisar de um
                                                          computador,
                                                          que podia
                                                          compra as
                                                          peças no
                                                          Mercadolivre
                                                          pra ficar mais
                                                          barato, alguns
                                                          atas que eu
                                                          poderia
                                                          comprar na
                                                          China (pelo
                                                          eBay), e
                                                          pasmem, um
                                                          &quot;modem gsm
                                                          desses que usa
                                                          para internet
                                                          3G&quot; para cada
                                                          linha de
                                                          celular e hub
                                                          usb com porta
                                                          para a
                                                          quantidade de
                                                          modens. E que
                                                          talvez tivesse
                                                          que mandar os
                                                          modens pra ele
                                                          configurar, ou
                                                          se eu quisesse
                                                          ele me
                                                          venderia já
                                                          configurado.</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Todo
                                                          dia ele me
                                                          manda um
                                                          e-mail
                                                          perguntando se
                                                          vou fechar e
                                                          me dando um
                                                          &quot;descontinho&quot;
                                                          a mais na mão
                                                          de obra.</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Triste
                                                          viu!</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          [...]&#39;s<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Marcio
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">========================================</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">###########
                                                          Campanha Ajude
                                                          o Marcio!
                                                          ###########</div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><a href="http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/</a></div>

                                                          <div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">
                                                          <a href="http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793</a><br>

                                                          </div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">========================================</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>Em 29 de
                                                          agosto de 2013
                                                          13:56, Daniel
                                                          Roberto <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:daniel@oxmundi.com.br" target="_blank">daniel@oxmundi.com.br</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          escreveu:
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Qual
                                                          marca do Hub?</div>
                                                          <div><br clear="all">
                                                          <div><font size="4">
                                                          <div style="text-align:left"><img><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </font></div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>Em 29 de
                                                          agosto de 2013
                                                          14:44, Everton
                                                          Carneiro <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:everton@visaotecnologia.com" target="_blank">everton@visaotecnologia.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          escreveu:
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">no
                                                          de 16 um hub
                                                          profissional
                                                          de 16 portas
                                                          USB.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>Em 29 de
                                                          agosto de 2013
                                                          14:33, Daniel
                                                          Roberto <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:daniel@oxmundi.com.br" target="_blank">daniel@oxmundi.com.br</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          escreveu:
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Olá
                                                          Everton,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Qual
                                                          modelo de
                                                          régua USB para
                                                          conectar os
                                                          modens você
                                                          está
                                                          utilizando?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Att,</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <font size="4">
                                                          <div style="text-align:left"><img><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </font></div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>Em 29 de
                                                          agosto de 2013
                                                          14:28, Everton
                                                          Carneiro <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:everton@visaotecnologia.com" target="_blank">everton@visaotecnologia.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          escreveu:<br>
                                                          <blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Compartinhando
                                                          experiência:
                                                          <div>Pessoal
                                                          estava usando
                                                          varios gatway
                                                          de 4 portas
                                                          feito com
                                                          cha_dongle e
                                                          os mesmo
                                                          funcionam
                                                          muito bem ate
                                                          o o dia de
                                                          hoje estou
                                                          muito
                                                          satisfeito com
                                                          essa solução,
                                                          mas tenho uma
                                                          melhor!...
                                                          estou com um
                                                          de 16 modens
                                                          E303
                                                          (homologado)
                                                          usando Alix,
                                                          pessoal esse é
                                                          que mim
                                                          surpreendeu
                                                          mesmo já esta
                                                          a mais de 45
                                                          dias em 1
                                                          callcenter
                                                          aqui em
                                                          Fortaleza e
                                                          esta 100%
                                                          funcional com
                                                          todas as
                                                          portas
                                                          simultânea.
                                                          muito bom
                                                          mesmo, ate o
                                                          sinal esta
                                                          melhor que
                                                          gatways de
                                                          marcas (X,Y,Z)
                                                          que tenho em
                                                          produção.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Isso tudo
                                                          é mérito de
                                                          nossa lista e
                                                          em particular
                                                          nosso amigo
                                                          Giovanni e
                                                          Paulo muito
                                                          grato pessoal.
                                                               <span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div><font style="background-color:rgb(255,255,204)" color="#000099"><b>Everton Carneiro .:</b></font></div>
                                                          <div><font color="#000000"><b>Visão
                                                          Tecnologia<br>
                                                          </b></font></div>
                                                          <div><font color="#000000"><b>Fortaleza-CE 
                                                          <a>85-3044
                                                          8888</a> /
                                                          3044-8844<br>
                                                          </b></font></div>
                                                          <div><font color="#000000"><b>Cel:
                                                          Tim         <a>85-9665 0888</a> <br>
                                                          </b></font></div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div><span style="color:rgb(91,91,91);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><span style="color:rgb(91,91,91);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">
                                                          </span>Preserve
o
                                                          verde, antes
                                                          de imprimir
                                                          veja se
                                                          realmente é
                                                          necessário.</span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </font></span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;<br>
                                                          Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
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                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;<br>
                                                          Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br clear="all">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div><font style="background-color:rgb(255,255,204)" color="#000099"><b>Everton Carneiro .:</b></font></div>
                                                          <div><font color="#000000"><b>Visão
                                                          Tecnologia<br>
                                                          </b></font></div>
                                                          <div><font color="#000000"><b>Fortaleza-CE 
                                                          <a>85-3044
                                                          8888</a> /
                                                          3044-8844<br>
                                                          </b></font></div>
                                                          <div><font color="#000000"><b>Cel:
                                                          Tim         <a>85-9665 0888</a> <br>
                                                          </b></font></div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div><span style="color:rgb(91,91,91);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><span style="color:rgb(91,91,91);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">
                                                          </span>Preserve
o
                                                          verde, antes
                                                          de imprimir
                                                          veja se
                                                          realmente é
                                                          necessário.</span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;<br>
                                                          Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;<br>
                                                          Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
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                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;<br>
                                                          Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
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                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;<br>
                                                          Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                                                          </blockquote>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          <br clear="all">
                                                          <br>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Otávio
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      _______________________________________________
KHOMP:
                                                      completa linha de
                                                      placas externas
                                                      FXO, FXS, GSM e
                                                      E1;
                                                      Media Gateways de
                                                      1 a 64 E1s para
                                                      SIP com R2, ISDN e
                                                      SS7;
                                                      Intercomunicadores
                                                      para acesso remoto
                                                      via rede IP.
                                                      Conhe�a em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.
                                                      _______________________________________________
ALIGERA
                                                      � Fabricante
                                                      nacional de
                                                      Gateways SIP-E1
                                                      para R2, ISDN e
                                                      SS7.
                                                      Placas de 1E1,
                                                      2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                      para PCI ou PCI
                                                      Express.
                                                      Channel Bank �
                                                      Appliance Asterisk
                                                      - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.
                                                      _______________________________________________
Para
                                                      remover seu email
                                                      desta lista, basta
                                                      enviar um email em
                                                      branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                              KHOMP: completa linha de
                                              placas externas FXO, FXS,
                                              GSM e E1;<br>
                                              Media Gateways de 1 a 64
                                              E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN
                                              e SS7;<br>
                                              Intercomunicadores para
                                              acesso remoto via rede IP.
                                              Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                              ALIGERA – Fabricante
                                              nacional de Gateways
                                              SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e
                                              SS7.<br>
                                              Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e
                                              8E1 para PCI ou PCI
                                              Express.<br>
                                              Channel Bank – Appliance
                                              Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                              Para remover seu email
                                              desta lista, basta enviar
                                              um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                          </div>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <br>
                                  _______________________________________________
KHOMP:
                                  completa linha de placas externas FXO,
                                  FXS, GSM e E1;
                                  Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP
                                  com R2, ISDN e SS7;
                                  Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto
                                  via rede IP. Conhe�a em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.
                                  _______________________________________________
ALIGERA
                                  � Fabricante nacional de Gateways
                                  SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.
                                  Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI
                                  ou PCI Express.
                                  Channel Bank � Appliance Asterisk -
                                  Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.
                                  _______________________________________________
Para
                                  remover seu email desta lista, basta
                                  enviar um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS,
                      GSM e E1;<br>
                      Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN
                      e SS7;<br>
                      Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP.
                      Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1
                      para R2, ISDN e SS7.<br>
                      Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI
                      Express.<br>
                      Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar
                      um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
              <span><font color="#888888">
                  <br>
                  <br clear="all">
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  -- <br>
                  <span style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Sylvio
                    Jollenbeck<br>
                    <font size="1"><a href="http://www.hosannatecnologia.com.br/" target="_blank">www.hosannatecnologia.com.br</a></font></span><br>
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            <br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
            Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;<br>
            Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conheça
            em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2,
            ISDN e SS7.<br>
            Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.<br>
            Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar um email em
            branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
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KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;
Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;
Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.
_______________________________________________
ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.
Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.
Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.
_______________________________________________
Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></pre>
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<br>_______________________________________________<br>
KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;<br>
Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.<br>
Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.<br>
Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br></blockquote></div>
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