<div dir="ltr">É bem por ai Sylvio, cada um segue o que acha ideal. Por exemplo eu acho que a placa DigiVoice é a melhor solução (rs).<div><br></div><div>Abraço a todos.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2013/9/2 Patrick El Youssef <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:wushumasters@gmail.com" target="_blank">wushumasters@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
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    Concordo plenamente Everton<br>
    <br>
    Estamos aqui para nos ajudarmos e nos discutirmos coisas assim<br>
    <br>
    Obrigado<br>
    <br>
    <div>Em 02-09-2013 12:49, Everton Carneiro
      escreveu:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">concordo se eu soubesse que iria causar isso,
        desculpas a todos. vamos pra frente somos uma comunidade.  </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">Em 2 de setembro de 2013 12:41, Patrick
          El Youssef <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:wushumasters@gmail.com" target="_blank">wushumasters@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
          escreveu:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Pessoal,<br>
              <br>
              Não sei os outros, mas acho que ja ficou bem claro esse
              assunto<br>
              <br>
              Vocês já estão brigando por nada<br>
              <br>
              Modem, Placa, GoIP usem o que quiserem cada um na sua<br>
              <br>
              Acho que esse debate não leva  a lugar nenhum<br>
              <br>
              Só minha opinião<br>
              <br>
              Valeu<br>
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              <div>Em 02-09-2013 12:32, Marcio - Google escreveu:<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Paulo
                    Fernandes, pelo link da Huawei que me mandou dá pra
                    ter noção do seu conhecimento, nulo. Você nunca viu
                    e provavelmente nem sabe o que é um modem GSM.</div>
                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">&quot;<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px">12

                      mil chamadas em 16 horas</span>&quot; huau, nossa ...
                    kkkkkkkkkkkk ... Quando tiver um teste de um sistema
                    no ar a mais de 365 dias e com mais de 13 milhões de
                    minutos em canais GSM, a gente conversa! Até lá,
                    estuda e para de escrever besteiras.</div>
                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                  </div>
                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Em
                    tempo, além da formação em eletrônica, apesar de não
                    exercer, sempre brinquei com microcontroladores e
                    sistemas embarcados. Você pelo contrario não sabe o
                    básico para discutir se um circuito é adequado ou
                    não para uma função, é isso dá para ter certeza pelo
                    fato de você confundir o modem GSM com o produto
                    final, o pen modem ... kkkkkkkk.</div>
                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Aproveite
                    as dezenas de colegas aqui na lista, com vasto
                    conhecimento não só em Asterisk, e aprenda um pouco
                    para não passar vergonha!</div>
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                      [...]&#39;s<br>
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                      Marcio
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">Em 2 de setembro de 2013
                    08:47, Paulo Fernandes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:paulofernandes@maisradio.com.br" target="_blank">paulofernandes@maisradio.com.br</a>&gt;</span>
                    escreveu:<br>
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                      <div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="PT-BR">
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Rsrs.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Ou

                              seus remédios o faz mal, ou você precisa
                              descer um pouco do pedestal onde se
                              encontra.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Mais

                              um vez você é um poço que achismos....
                              REPITO: Nunca testou e fala mal! E se
                              propõe a testar é porque realmente NUNCA
                              TESTOU!</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Mas

                              se você pediu está aqui:</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.huaweidevice.co.in/Products/MobileBroadband/compare-data-cards.php" target="_blank">http://www.huaweidevice.co.in/Products/MobileBroadband/compare-data-cards.php</a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"></span></p>

                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Tem

                              aqui uma comparação dos modens vendidos
                              pela Huawei, e se der para ver de cima do
                              seu pedestal, dá uma olha lá em </span><strong><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#5f5f5f;background:white">Voice

                                call Support (Support PC Voice call
                                Support)</span></strong><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Meus

                              Deus!! Tem suporte sim a voz.... Não é
                              gambiarra!!!! Fala sério Marcio! Conhece a
                              diferença de capacitor sólido e
                              eletrolítico, deve ter lido muito sobre o
                              assunto, mas seu preconceito não o deixa
                              ver outras coisas tão simples,  como isso.
                              Somente o rei que está dentro da sua
                              barriga que te falou isso? Que não tem
                              suporte a voz?</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Se

                              o modem não aguenta uma alta carga de
                              ligações isso é uma outra coisa, e posso
                              acreditar que pode aguentar pelo menos
                              algo pelo teste abaixo:</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tar7ZqEagk&amp;feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tar7ZqEagk&amp;feature=player_embedded</a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"></span></p>

                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">12

                              mil chamadas em 16 horas... é.... posso
                              acreditar neste teste....</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Mas

                              qual teste mesmo que você realizou?</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Eu

                              estou dentro disso há meses, participando
                              de N testes... </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Se

                              falo aqui é com base nos testes que
                              realizamos e não na base de achismos como
                              sempre faz....<br>
                              <br>
                            </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Seu

                              pedestal é tão alto e teu achismo é tão
                              imenso que eu não posso acreditar em
                              nenhum teste que venha a realizar... Tá na
                              cara que não é isento!</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Para

                              mim, você não é mais confiável caso
                              realize teste! Seu orgulho e arrogância me
                              permite constatar isso!</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">De:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                              <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a>
                              [mailto:<a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a>]
                              <b>Em nome de </b>Marcio - Google<br>
                              <b>Enviada em:</b> domingo, 1 de setembro
                              de 2013 22:46<br>
                              <b>Para:</b> <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                              <b>Assunto:</b> Re: [AsteriskBrasil] RES:
                              Gatway com chan_dongle</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Paulo

                                  Fernandes, desculpe a demora na
                                  resposta. Pedi para o meu filho de 8
                                  anos interpretar o texto que escrevi,
                                  e agora tenho segurança para dizer que
                                  você faltou muita aula do ensino
                                  fundamental ou é ferrenho defensor de
                                  gambiarras!</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Dito

                                  isso, vamos lá:</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">1.

                                  Não falo/escrevo sobre o que não
                                  conheço. O chan_dongle é uma gambiarra
                                  e pen modens não são para esse
                                  propósito.</span></p>
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                            </div>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Em

                                  tempo, e antes de perder mais o meu
                                  tempo: Sabe o que é tolerância em um
                                  resistor? Sabe a diferença de um
                                  capacitor sólido e um eletrolítico? Se
                                  não souber pelo menos isso, e não vale
                                  pesquisar no Dr. Google, não adianta
                                  aprofundar a discussão.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2.

                                  A Huawei pode ser um grande
                                  fabricante, como tantos outros, e como
                                  esses outros tem produtos voltados
                                  para diferentes perfis e com
                                  diferentes qualidades. O modem usando
                                  em um pen modem não é para esse perfil
                                  de uso e muito menos de primeira
                                  linha! E um modem barato, produzido
                                  com componentes baratos, com um
                                  controle de qualidade menos exigente e
                                  para ser usado em um ambiente sem
                                  grandes exigências. Totalmente
                                  diferente de um modem de primeira
                                  linha/industrial. Antes de falar
                                  besteira e passar vergonha, tenha
                                  embasamento técnico!</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3.

                                  Apesar de não precisar testar para
                                  saber se é bom ou não, como disse
                                  analisei o source. E sim, fiz testes
                                  superficiais. E o mais importante,
                                  tive feedback de várias pessoas,
                                  inclusive aqui da lista, e todas
                                  testaram e me deram o parecer negativo
                                  a essa gambiarra. Infelizmente pelo
                                  visto não querem se expor e entrar em
                                  uma flame.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                            </div>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">E
                                  já que o negocio é testar, vou testar
                                  como o Giovanni propôs.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">4.

                                  Já que é tão entendido em modem GSM,
                                  me liste os principais fabricantes?
                                  Mas quem realmente fabrica, não quem
                                  pega o modem e solda em uma plaquinha.
                                  Aliás, você sabe o que é o modem GSM?</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">5.

                                  Já que é tão fã da Huawei, consiga com
                                  eles um laudo atestando que esses
                                  pen-modens são adequados a esse uso.
                                  Também aproveite e pegue o catalogo de
                                  modens e suas aplicações.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">6.

                                  O chan_dongle dá sinais de excelente
                                  qualidade? Onde? Só se for em Marte? O
                                  produto que nem padrão de hardware
                                  tem. Há meia dúzia de pen-modens que
                                  funcionam bem, e amanha ou depois se
                                  não forem mais fabricados? Exatamente
                                  a mesma coisa que os produtos
                                  profissionais, né?</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">7.

                                  Não adianta carregar minha opinião de
                                  &quot;elementos relevantes&quot; se você
                                  provavelmente não sabe o básico, e dá
                                  para perceber isso só pelo fato de
                                  você não saber a diferença entre os
                                  tipos de modem GSM e seus perfis de
                                  uso. Mas se quiser, podemos discutir
                                  desde o projeto de um modem GSM e seus
                                  componentes, passando pelo processo de
                                  produção, e até o source do fantástico
                                  chan_dongle.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">8.

                                  Finalizando, sobre a Khomp, ela é um
                                  dos melhores fabricantes nacionais,
                                  tem seus tropeços, como todos. Como
                                  disse, usa componentes de primeira. O
                                  problema resume-se ao channel, e mesmo
                                  não podendo mais usa-la nesse cliente
                                  em especifico, posso usar em vários
                                  outros assim que o channel estiver
                                  100%. Não é atoa que estou fortemente
                                  propenso a usar o hardware da Khomp
                                  para um projeto que estou trabalhando,
                                  por dois fatores muito simples: 1.
                                  Hardware de qualidade; e 2.
                                  Continuidade e padronização do
                                  hardware.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Apenas

                                  para ilustrar o que você não conseguiu
                                  entender:</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;...

                                      as coisas estão fluindo mais,
                                      estamos interagindo mais e
                                      consequentemente os problemas vem
                                      sendo identificados e corrigidos.&quot;</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt"></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;...

                                      Eles tem vários outros produtos
                                      impares no mercado, mas hoje tenho
                                      um pé atrás. ... Pelo menos
                                      componentes de qualidade eles
                                      usam, e não dá pra comparar com
                                      gambiarras ou mesmo GoIP da vida.&quot;</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt"></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;Mas

                                      eles tem estrutura para isso e
                                      podem melhorar! Tem gente dedicada
                                      a isso, recebendo salário para
                                      isso! Falta abrir a cabeça um
                                      pouco. Tem pessoas excelentes lá,
                                      o profissional que tenho contato
                                      direito é muito bom. Apesar do
                                      começo ruim, é um dos fornecedores
                                      que estou apostando para um
                                      projeto que está no formo.&quot;</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt"></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Fui!</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"></span></p>

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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                  [...]&#39;s<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Marcio</p>
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                                        Campanha Ajude o Marcio!
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href="http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/</span></a></span></p>

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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href="http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793</span></a></span></p>

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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Em 30 de agosto de
                                2013 22:48, Paulo Fernandes &lt;<a href="mailto:paulofernandes@maisradio.com.br" target="_blank">paulofernandes@maisradio.com.br</a>&gt;

                                escreveu:</p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Pelo

                                      que entendi, conhece bem Khomp e
                                      não recomenda, mas há meses testa
                                      e desenvolve.</span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Não

                                      conhece e não quer testar
                                      Chan_Dongle, mas critica
                                      ferrenhamente.</span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Só

                                      por esta discrepância é estranho
                                      se portar assim. Há algo errado.</span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Prefere

                                      algo proprietário ruim do que
                                      desenvolver algo aberto que dá
                                      sinais de excelente qualidade.</span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Eu

                                      tentaria desenvolver algo novo e
                                      não ajudar uma empresa que como
                                      seu cliente diz, não quer mais nem
                                      uma arruela. A não ser que as
                                      arruelas me seja mais vantajoso
                                      financeiramente.</span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Sobre

                                      modens GSM, não posso comparar a
                                      maior fabricante HUAWEI com
                                      nenhuma outra , infelizmente não
                                      há comparação. Prefiro confiar
                                      numa empresa do porte da Huawei do
                                      que em qualquer outra.</span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Por

                                      fim não sei de onde tirou que o
                                      produto não tem estabilidade, se
                                      não testou. <br>
                                      E não sei de onde tirou que é
                                      improvisação, se a maioria dos
                                      modens huawei vem com opção já
                                      ativada de voz, são feitos para
                                      isso também.</span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Acho

                                      que você está confundindo modem
                                      Paraguai com modem original
                                      huawei. Modem huawei deve ter no
                                      mínimo 100 vezes mais de
                                      engenheiros e profissionais 100x
                                      mais habilitados do que Khomp.</span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">A
                                      improvisação é num HUB USB? </span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Acha

                                      mesmo que a gambiarra é um HUB
                                      USB?</span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Ou

                                      não quer admitir que está diante
                                      de algo sério e que funciona a
                                      contento?</span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Acho

                                      que deve admitir ou realizar seus
                                      próprios testes para que sua
                                      opinião seja mais  carregada de
                                      informações relevantes.</span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">De:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                                      <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a>
                                      [mailto:<a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a>]
                                      <b>Em nome de </b>Marcio - Google<br>
                                      <b>Enviada em:</b> sexta-feira, 30
                                      de agosto de 2013 22:36<br>
                                      <b>Para:</b> <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                                      <b>Assunto:</b> Re:
                                      [AsteriskBrasil] Gatway com
                                      chan_dongle</span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Putz,

                                              como disse a algum tempo
                                              atrás, estou velho pra
                                              flames ... mesmo tendo 35
                                              anos, tenho o corpo e
                                              cabeça de 60 ... 300mg/dia
                                              de morfina + 40mg/dia de
                                              metadona são fantásticas
                                              para causar esse efeito.
                                              Recomendo!</span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Não

                                              vou mais responder, exceto
                                              se convencido ao contrário
                                              ... rsrsrs</span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Bom,

                                              como diria Jack, vamos por
                                              partes:</span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">1.

                                              Não me referi a você ou a
                                              seu trabalho em especifico
                                              Giovanni, me referi a
                                              gambiarras em geral,
                                              infelizmente o chan_dongle
                                              é a bola da vez. Sobre a
                                              sua oferta, gostaria muito
                                              de aceitar, mas eu não
                                              consegui convencer nenhum
                                              colega que assumiu meus
                                              clientes a colocar em
                                              produção, para um teste
                                              real. Em laboratório não
                                              acredito que tenha muita
                                              serventia, além disse
                                              estou atarefado com 5
                                              equipamentos de 3
                                              fabricantes. Se mesmo
                                              assim achar interessante,
                                              vamos lá.</span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2.

                                              Vamos definir
                                              &quot;gambiarra&quot;: </span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2.1.

                                              Segundo a Wikipédia: </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">(Subst.

                                              Fem.) No Brasil, o
                                              significado predominante
                                              seria &quot;improvisação&quot;. ...
                                              O termo &quot;gambiarra&quot;
                                              costuma ser usado também
                                              como adjetivo,
                                              significando &quot;precário&quot;,
                                              &quot;feio&quot;, &quot;tosco&quot;, &quot;mal
                                              acabado&quot;. </span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2.2.

                                              Segundo o
                                              Michaelis: Ribalta de
                                              luzes na parte anterior e
                                              superior dos
                                              palcos. 2 Serviço elétrico
                                              malfeito, especialmente
                                              com a finalidade de obter
                                              energia elétrica de
                                              maneira ilegal.</span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2.3.

                                              Segundo o Marcio:
                                              Improvisação, utilização
                                              de equipamentos fora da
                                              especificação ou proposito
                                              original, produto sem
                                              estabilidade/segurança/garantia.</span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3.

                                              Por favor, não sei o que é
                                              pior, GoIP e mais meia
                                              dúzia de tranqueiras
                                              chinesas. Isso não
                                              é parâmetro para
                                              comparação. A concepção
                                              inicial do GoIP é
                                              puramente para explorar o
                                              mercado de SMS Pirata,
                                              nada mais. Ah, ele é uma
                                              gambiarra industrializada
                                              ... rsrsrs</span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">4.

                                              Na comparação de processo
                                              industrial
                                              X artesanal, basicamente é
                                              isso. Mas suprimiram
                                              alguns fatores e
                                              informações muito
                                              importantes: qualidade dos
                                              componentes utilizados,
                                              projeto e equipe de
                                              engenheiros dedicados ao
                                              desenvolvimento do
                                              produto, e principalmente
                                              continuidade e
                                              padronização do hardware.
                                              O oposto do chan_dongle,
                                              que com outro colega mesmo
                                              disse, usa-se o pen-modem
                                              disponível!</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">5.

                                              Sim, tudo é modem GSM, mas
                                              cada um foi projetado para
                                              um tipo de uso, para um
                                              perfil. Da mesma forma que
                                              existem capacitores
                                              melhores e piores, existem
                                              modens GSM melhores e
                                              piores. No mundo existem
                                              poucos fabricantes
                                              realmente de modem GSM, dá
                                              pra contar nos dedos, e a
                                              maioria deles tem os de
                                              primeira linha, de segunda
                                              linha e de terceira linha,
                                              além dos perfis de uso. Ai
                                              vai do fabricante do
                                              gateway usar o adequado.
                                              Assim é com todas as
                                              outras partes.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">6.

                                              Sim, tem um monte de
                                              fabricantes que usam tudo
                                              pronto e só colocam a
                                              marca, e são
                                              facilmente identificáveis.
                                              Eu não uso esse tipo de
                                              produto. </span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">7.

                                              Fazendo uma analogia a
                                              qualidade dos componentes,
                                              placas, modens e etc. Sabe
                                              aquele pneu de carro
                                              175x70R14? Pois é, do
                                              mesmo fabricante com as
                                              mesmas medidas você
                                              encontra de diferentes
                                              valores, e sabe porque?
                                              Cada um foi feito para um
                                              perfil de uso, vai de você
                                              colocar o adequado no seu
                                              carro para o seu uso. Se
                                              você colocar o inadequado
                                              ele pode durar menos, não
                                              conseguir frear
                                              corretamente, não ter a
                                              estabilidade necessária e
                                              por ai vai, mas vai rodar.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">8.

                                              Com certeza absoluta
                                              todos, sem exceção, os
                                              pen-modens usados pelo
                                              chan_dongle usam modens
                                              GSM baratos, para perfil
                                              de uso doméstico onde não
                                              há exigência de qualidade,
                                              ou mesmo se ele parar, no
                                              máximo vai aborrecer o
                                              usuário, não vai
                                              causar prejuízos financeiros.
                                              E com mais certeza ainda
                                              não foi projetado para
                                              alta carga e operação
                                              continua. Ao contrário dos
                                              gateways, que pelo menos
                                              deveriam usar os de
                                              primeira linha com perfil
                                              voltado a alta carga e
                                              operação continua, os
                                              chamados industriais.
                                              Sabemos que muitos não o
                                              fazem, ai vai de você
                                              conhecer o equipamento.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">9.

                                              Sempre, desde o começo,
                                              usei equipamentos
                                              profissionais. Volto a
                                              repetir, o cliente que
                                              precisa de 16 canais GSM e
                                              não tem 12-13 mil pra
                                              pagar em um gateway
                                              profissional, tem algo
                                              errado!</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">10.

                                              Até concordo que as
                                              margens de lucro dos
                                              fabricantes muitas vezes
                                              são abusivas. Um modem GSM
                                              de primeira linha em
                                              escala não custa mais de
                                              USD$40,00. Então porque um
                                              módulo custa USD$350,00?
                                              Parte desse valor é lucro,
                                              outra parte é custo de
                                              pesquisa, desenvolvimento
                                              e produção, mas um fatia
                                              bem grande é para o
                                              chamado &quot;Seguro de
                                              Responsabilidade Civil&quot;.
                                              Trocando em miúdos e a
                                              reserva que a empresa faz
                                              para caso
                                              cause prejuízos para um
                                              cliente e seja condenada
                                              judicialmente
                                              a ressarci-lo. Algumas
                                              contratam esse seguro,
                                              outras simplesmente
                                              embutem isso como custo de
                                              produção.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Certa

                                              vez surgiu a oportunidade
                                              de entrar diretamente em
                                              um cliente de grande
                                              porte, o primeiro. Ele
                                              usava Avaya com 600 PAs e
                                              precisava
                                              ampliar/modernizar. Me
                                              apresentaram ao diretor de
                                              tecnologia e depois de
                                              muito telefone e e-mail
                                              ele resolveu me dar uma
                                              chance, marcou uma reunião
                                              para eu apresentar o
                                              projeto. A única coisa que
                                              ele disse: &quot;se exitar
                                              ou gaguejar uma vez que
                                              seja, está fora.&quot; Cheguei
                                              na reunião com um
                                              projeto/proposta da
                                              solução completa por 1/8
                                              do preço da Avaya. Me
                                              colocaram em uma sala de
                                              reuniões sentado sozinho
                                              em um lado da mesa, em uma
                                              cabeceira estava o diretor
                                              de tecnologia e na outra o
                                              vice-presidente, do outro
                                              lado da mesa uns 10
                                              técnicos/engenheiros.
                                              Passei por uma sabatina de
                                              4 horas, estava quase
                                              tendo um colapso, até
                                              então o vice-presidente,
                                              um senhor de uns 50-60
                                              anos, não tinha dado uma
                                              única palavra, fica só
                                              reclinado na cadeira
                                              escutando. Depois de 4
                                              horas aproximadamente ele
                                              encostou na mesa,
                                              interrompeu e disse: &quot;já
                                              vi que tecnicamente
                                              ninguém nessa sala vai
                                              conseguir te contestar,
                                              nem mesmo aquele ali da
                                              ponta que é o engenheiro
                                              da Avaya responsável pelo
                                              projeto. Até agora você
                                              não gaguejou, não ficou em
                                              dúvida ou deixou de
                                              responder qualquer
                                              questão. Não estou
                                              propenso a fechar com a
                                              Avaya porque acho que a
                                              sua solução não funcione,
                                              pelo contrário, ou porque
                                              a deles seja melhor, ou
                                              porque é mais cara ou
                                              porque eles são mais
                                              bonitos. Se eu contratar a
                                              Avaya e tiver algum
                                              problema eu irei
                                              processa-la e sei que ela
                                              terá capital para arcar
                                              com
                                              as prováveis indenizações.
                                              E se eu contratar a sua,
                                              quem irei processar? Pelo
                                              que entendi há pelo menos
                                              quatro fornecedores
                                              envolvidos. Irei processar
                                              você, o responsável pela
                                              solução! Agora me diga,
                                              você tem capital para
                                              suportar um processos
                                              desses? Tem ideia de
                                              quanto custa o minuto
                                              parado de nossa operação?
                                              Acho que não!&quot;</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Fiquei

                                              parado, não sabia o que
                                              responder. Após uns 30
                                              segundos de pausa que
                                              parece que duraram 30
                                              minutos, ele continuou:
                                              &quot;Me apresente uma apólice
                                              de responsabilidade civil
                                              de meio milhão por 36
                                              meses, em 72 horas, e o
                                              projeto é seu.&quot;. Eu só
                                              respondi: &quot;Fechado!&quot;, sem
                                              ter a menor ideia de
                                              quanto custava isso. Ele
                                              levantou e saiu da sala
                                              junto com a maioria. O
                                              engenheiro da Avaya saiu
                                              rindo, pois provavelmente
                                              sabia o custo disso. O
                                              diretor de tecnologia só
                                              me disse: &quot;Boa sorte, você
                                              vai precisar!&quot;</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Sai

                                              de lá já correndo atrás,
                                              quando recebi os primeiros
                                              orçamentos quase infartei.
                                              Faltando umas 3 horas para
                                              o prazo esgotar consegui
                                              fechar com uma seguradora
                                              que já enviou a apólice
                                              direto pra eles e eu
                                              fechei o contrato. Hoje
                                              eles são o meu único
                                              cliente direto ainda, mas
                                              só presto consultoria, não
                                              entra um parafuso lá sem
                                              meu aval.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Sabe

                                              quanto me custou o seguro?
                                              Quase 2x o meu lucro no
                                              projeto! Pois é, tive um
                                              enorme prejuízo. E o que
                                              eu mais queria eu não pude
                                              fazer, usa-los como
                                              vitrine. Mandei o meu
                                              contrato de meras 5
                                              páginas, uma semana depois
                                              o jurídico deles me
                                              devolveu com quase 50
                                              páginas e com um
                                              recadinho: &quot;Nem pense em
                                              querer tirar ou colocar
                                              algo!&quot;. Dessas 50 páginas,
                                              umas 5 eram dedicadas ao
                                              maldito NDA, mais umas 5
                                              as consequências de
                                              quebra-lo! Ou seja, nunca
                                              pude citar o nome deles ou
                                              qualquer aspecto técnico
                                              da solução, exceto que
                                              usam &quot;Asterisk&quot; e tem mais
                                              de 1.500 PAs ativas, hoje.
                                              Eles me trouxeram muitos
                                              outros clientes, mas por
                                              iniciativa deles.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Ou

                                              seja, o &quot;quanto custa&quot;  a
                                              solução é um dos fatores
                                              de menor peso para o médio
                                              e grande porte, e até
                                              menos para o pequeno, que
                                              é administrado e não
                                              empurrado com a barriga.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Nunca

                                              passei a mão em cabeça de
                                              fabricante ou fornecedor,
                                              e sempre fui muito
                                              criterioso nas
                                              homologações para todos os
                                              clientes. E como a Khomp
                                              foi citada nos seus
                                              &quot;primórdios&quot; ... rsrsrs</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Conhecia

                                              a Khomp de nome, mais
                                              nunca tinha usado. Um dia
                                              resolvi comprar um EBS GSM
                                              (lançamento) para uma
                                              parceria. Logo de cara,
                                              nos primeiros testes, me
                                              estranhei com o channel.
                                              Cheguei a pensar em
                                              devolver. Em uma conf com
                                              o pessoal do
                                              desenvolvimento, nos
                                              estranhamos mais ainda,
                                              pois disse que o channel
                                              não era estável, era um
                                              beta ou algo do tipo.
                                              Foram ríspidos comigo e eu
                                              com eles. Implementaram
                                              alguns requisitos e fiquei
                                              com o equipamento.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Na

                                              sequencia tive a infeliz
                                              ideia de envia-lo para
                                              esse cliente ai de cima. O
                                              tal seguro quase me fez
                                              falta. De vários
                                              problemas, na última vez o
                                              famigerado channel
                                              derrubou parte da
                                              operação, o estrago só não
                                              maior pela forma como o
                                              ambiente foi implementado
                                              e opera. Umas 300 PAs
                                              ficaram indisponíveis por
                                              exatos 72 segundos e caiu
                                              mais umas 100 ligações.
                                              Foi o suficiente pra eu
                                              receber uma ligação do
                                              vice-presidente
                                              perguntando se eu ainda
                                              tinha o seguro, pois se o
                                              problema se repetisse
                                              novamente eu precisaria
                                              dele, e que só não iria
                                              precisar agora em
                                              homenagem aos últimos 5
                                              anos de serviços
                                              irretocáveis. </span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Uns

                                              3 dias depois recebi o
                                              equipamento de volta por
                                              sedex a cobrar com um
                                              bilhete do diretor de
                                              tecnologia: &quot;Em
                                              consideração a nossa
                                              amizade e aos últimos 5
                                              anos, nunca mais me mande
                                              um produto desse
                                              fabricante. Nem arruela!&quot;</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Ha

                                              alguns meses estou
                                              testando pelo menos uma
                                              dezena de updates do
                                              channel e estou com uma
                                              versão nova do EBS.
                                              Chegamos a passar 2
                                              semanas rodando testes com
                                              pacotes específicos do
                                              channel para debug,
                                              tentando identificar os
                                              bugs e corrigi-los.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Não

                                              falei mais com a pessoa
                                              que achou ruim quando
                                              disse que o channel não
                                              era estável, e hoje tenho
                                              certeza que não era. Mas
                                              depois de uma conversa
                                              produtiva com um dos
                                              diretores, as coisas estão
                                              fluindo mais, estamos
                                              interagindo mais e
                                              consequentemente os
                                              problemas vem sendo
                                              identificados e
                                              corrigidos.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Ainda

                                              tem muito coisa a ser
                                              feita, e sinceramente
                                              ainda não tenho segurança
                                              em mandar um produto deles
                                              para um ambiente de grande
                                              porte. Eles tem vários
                                              outros produtos impares no
                                              mercado, mas hoje tenho um
                                              pé atrás. Acho que falta
                                              um programa de
                                              &quot;beta-testers&quot; e mais
                                              tempo em desenvolvimento.
                                              Pelo menos componentes de
                                              qualidade eles usam, e não
                                              dá pra comparar com
                                              gambiarras ou mesmo GoIP
                                              da vida.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Mas

                                              eles tem estrutura para
                                              isso e podem melhorar! Tem
                                              gente dedicada a isso,
                                              recebendo salário para
                                              isso! Falta abrir a cabeça
                                              um pouco. Tem pessoas
                                              excelentes lá, o
                                              profissional que tenho
                                              contato direito é muito
                                              bom. Apesar do começo
                                              ruim, é um dos
                                              fornecedores que estou
                                              apostando para um projeto
                                              que está no formo.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">É
                                              o chan_dongle e seus
                                              pen-modens?</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">  </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Se

                                              eu tivesse sido processado
                                              pelo cliente, teria
                                              levando a Khomp junto. E
                                              se fosse o chan_dongle com
                                              os modens Huawei? Ia
                                              coloca a Huawei no meio?
                                              Ou o Makhutov e o Vagin? A
                                              Huawei no mínimo iria rir
                                              e simplesmente
                                              contra-argumentar que o
                                              produto não é para isso, e
                                              não é mesmo. No máximo
                                              eles iriam me processar
                                              por ter debloqueado o uso
                                              de voz, alegando patentes
                                              e segredos industriais.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Alguns

                                              vão dizer que deve ter uns
                                              5 callcenters desse porte
                                              no país! Eu vou repetir
                                              que o cliente que quer
                                              usar 16 canais GSM e não
                                              tem 12-13 mil para comprar
                                              um equipamento
                                              profissional tem que
                                              fechar as portas! Porque
                                              com certeza não tem pra
                                              isso, mas tem pra trocar
                                              de carro, reformar a casa,
                                              viajar e etc.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Brasileiro

                                              tem que parar com esse
                                              negócio de &quot;jeitinho&quot;.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Usar

                                              chan_dongle + pen-modens
                                              em casa ou no escritório
                                              para uma, duas linhas no
                                              máximo, onde se o sistema
                                              tiver que ser reiniciado
                                              ou ficar fora por 10-20
                                              minutos não vai afetar
                                              nada, tudo bem. Acho que é
                                              inclusive esse o objetivo
                                              do chan_dongle.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Agora,

                                              como está sendo colocado e
                                              feito propaganda, de
                                              colocar 10-20 pen-modens
                                              pendurados em um hub USB
                                              para aguentar a carga de
                                              um callcenter, me poupe, é
                                              demais pra mim. Isso pra
                                              mim ultrapassa o conceito
                                              de gambiarra.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Por

                                              último, o projeto está
                                              praticamente abandonado
                                              (um ano se atualizações) e
                                              tem vários issues
                                              pendentes. Até andei
                                              analisando o source e
                                              pensei em mexer, mas da
                                              forma que as coisa andam
                                              larguei de mão. Amanha ou
                                              depois vou ser processado
                                              por culpa de um &quot;sem
                                              noção&quot;. Sem contar que
                                              acho que o negócio está
                                              sendo desvirtuado a ponto
                                              de acabar prejudicando
                                              fabricantes sérios e
                                              profissionais, e não vou
                                              compactuar com isso.</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">UFÁ,

                                              consegui terminar de
                                              redigir, após umas 7 horas
                                              ... kkkkkkkk</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
                                          </p>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
                                                [...]&#39;s<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Marcio</p>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">========================================</span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">###########
                                                      Campanha Ajude o
                                                      Marcio!
                                                      ###########</span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href="http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/</span></a></span></p>

                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href="http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793</span></a></span></p>

                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">========================================</span></p>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
                                             </p>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Em 30
                                              de agosto de 2013 10:12,
                                              Asterisk - Junior Polegato
                                              &lt;<a href="mailto:asterisk@juniorpolegato.com.br" target="_blank">asterisk@juniorpolegato.com.br</a>&gt;

                                              escreveu:</p>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Olá!<br>
                                                <br>
                                                        Outro fator
                                                importante, em se
                                                falando de valores,
                                                estão esquecendo de
                                                somar impostos INSS,
                                                FGTS, Férias, 13º,
                                                sindicato, entre outros
                                                benefícios dos
                                                funcionários, ISS, ICMS,
                                                IPI, ST, PIS, COFINS,
                                                IRPJ, contabilidade
                                                entre outros para a
                                                Empresa, além do custo
                                                operacional como
                                                telefone, energia
                                                elétrica, aluguel,
                                                manutenção, etc. Além
                                                disso teria o imposto de
                                                importação e companhia
                                                na importação do Alix ou
                                                outro.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                        Não esquecendo
                                                que é uma empresa e visa
                                                lucro, não dá então para
                                                comparar valores
                                                chan_dongle com produtos
                                                comerciais.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                        Agora qualidade
                                                técnica, fiquei
                                                impressionando, coloquei
                                                um modem E156B no meu
                                                note de desenvolvimento,
                                                desbloqueei a voz e saí
                                                usando. Somente tive que
                                                alterar o código para
                                                suportar PDU/GSM e USSD
                                                nesse modelo e pronto,
                                                funciona tudo! E
                                                funciona muito bem!<br>
                                                <br>
                                                        Se alguém abrir
                                                uma empresa, uma caixa
                                                bonita (marketing),
                                                suporte 24h e garantia,
                                                e reduzir o lucro para o
                                                valor ficar abaixo do
                                                mercado, vai fazer
                                                dinheiro com certeza!<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                []&#39;s<br>
                                                         Junior Polegato<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                Em <a href="tel:30-08-2013" target="_blank">30-08-2013</a>
                                                10:32, Alexandre
                                                Cavalcante Alencar
                                                escreveu: </p>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Pessoal,
                                                </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">NOTA:
                                                    Não descrevo todas
                                                    as etapas do
                                                    processo, apenas de
                                                    forma bem genérica e
                                                    de alto nível ao
                                                    interesse da
                                                    discussão. As
                                                    especificidades
                                                    competem
                                                    exclusivamente a
                                                    aqueles que
                                                    empreenderão na
                                                    fabricação em escala
                                                    de produtos.</p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Aos

                                                    profissionais e
                                                    amadores:</p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Como
                                                    um gateway
                                                    profissional é
                                                    feito:</p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Pega-se
                                                    N módulos GSM, uma
                                                    interface de
                                                    controle, uma fonte
                                                    e um gabinete,
                                                    monta-se tudo de
                                                    forma que o conjunto
                                                    funcione
                                                    adequadamente ao
                                                    propósito
                                                    estabelecido e
                                                    comercializa-se.
                                                    Tudo isso partiu de
                                                    um protótipo, com
                                                    módulos soltos, fios
                                                    da fonte de
                                                    alimentação
                                                    conectados de forma
                                                    simples, etc...</p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Como
                                                    um gateway amador é
                                                    feito:</p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Pega-se
                                                    N módulos GSM (no
                                                    formato de um modem
                                                    3G, que nada mais é
                                                    que um módulo GSM
                                                    num gabinete de
                                                    propósito definido),
                                                    uma interface (hub
                                                    usb/servidor), uma
                                                    fonte de alimentação
                                                    (hub usb), monta-se
                                                    da forma mais
                                                    adequada ao ambiente
                                                    onde será instalado
                                                    e comercializa-se.</p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Qual
                                                    a diferença?</p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">No
                                                    dito profissional,
                                                    existe um processo
                                                    de fabricação em
                                                    escala, depois que o
                                                    protótipo passou por
                                                    sua fase de
                                                    construção, que
                                                    insere um gabinete
                                                    bonito, pintado,
                                                    padronizado, com
                                                    componentes
                                                    padronizados
                                                    (módulos gsm, fonte,
                                                    gabinete, interface
                                                    de controle, etc).</p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">No
                                                    dito amador, existe
                                                    um processo
                                                    artesanal,
                                                    construindo cada
                                                    instalação à sua
                                                    própria forma, com
                                                    pouca ou nenhuma
                                                    padronização (devido
                                                    à característica
                                                    artesanal), com
                                                    módulos diversos
                                                    (aquele modem que
                                                    está mais
                                                    acessível/disponível
                                                    ou cujas
                                                    experiências
                                                    passadas foram
                                                    positivas),
                                                    interfaces
                                                    (hubs/distro/asterisk)
                                                    diversas, fontes
                                                    (hubs) diversas e
                                                    processos de
                                                    montagem diversos.</p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Basicamente,

                                                    o artesanal deixará
                                                    de ser chamado assim
                                                    quando começar sua
                                                    produção em escala,
                                                    com componentes
                                                    padronizados, com
                                                    uma marca e
                                                    proprietária que
                                                    possa suportá-los.</p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
                                                </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Alexandre

                                                    Alencar<br>
                                                    Twitter
                                                    @alexandreitpro</p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://blog.alexandrealencar.net/" target="_blank">http://blog.alexandrealencar.net/</a><br>
                                                      <a href="http://www.alexandrealencar.net/" target="_blank">http://www.alexandrealencar.net/</a></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.alexandrealencar.com" target="_blank">http://www.alexandrealencar.com</a></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.servicosdeti.com.br/" target="_blank">http://www.servicosdeti.com.br/</a></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">COBIT,

                                                      ITIL, CSM, LPI,
                                                      MCP-I</p>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">2013/8/30

                                                    Sylvio Jollenbeck
                                                    &lt;<a href="mailto:sylvio.jollenbeck@gmail.com" target="_blank">sylvio.jollenbeck@gmail.com</a>&gt;</p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Hudson,
                                                    </p>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                         Concordo com a
                                                        sua opinião. um
                                                        produto só se
                                                        torna estável,
                                                        maduro e seguro
                                                        quando alguem,
                                                        mesmo que apenas
                                                        Um, acredite na
                                                        ideia. Um
                                                        solução com 16
                                                        dongle custa o
                                                        preço de 1 placa
                                                        gsm com 4 canais
                                                        no brasil. Eu
                                                        acredito que se
                                                        juntos, não na
                                                        visão de
                                                        usuários, mas na
                                                        visão de
                                                        desenvolvedores,
                                                        podemos usar o
                                                        dongle sem
                                                        qualquer
                                                        problema, trocar
                                                        experiencias.
                                                        etc.</p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Abs,</p>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                        Em 30 de agosto
                                                        de 2013 10:02,
                                                        Hudson Cardoso
                                                        &lt;<a href="mailto:hudsoncardoso@hotmail.com" target="_blank">hudsoncardoso@hotmail.com</a>&gt;

                                                        escreveu: </p>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">   Não
                                                          gosto muito de
                                                          participar  de
                                                          debates
                                                          &quot;Flames&quot;,
                                                          mas....</span>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">   Há muito
                                                          tempo atrás,
                                                          uns 12 anos eu
                                                          acho, conheci
                                                          uma empresa
                                                          pequena, tipo
                                                          fundo de
                                                          garagem,</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">um monte de
                                                          tralha
                                                          espalhada
                                                          pelas mesas,
                                                          dois malucos
                                                          soldando
                                                          &quot;pecinhas&quot;, e
                                                          um magrelo
                                                          alto tentando</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">me empurrar
                                                          uma solução
                                                          que seria o
                                                          futuro da
                                                          Telecom, assim
                                                          nascia a KOMP,</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> 
                                                           Nunca usei
                                                          uma Komp na
                                                          minha vida por
                                                          causa de
                                                          imagem que
                                                          tive, so
                                                          Digivoice, ate
                                                          que no mes
                                                          passado,</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">fui

                                                          convidado a
                                                          conhecer os
                                                          produtos dela.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">   Mudei
                                                          completamente
                                                          minha idéia,
                                                          placas muto
                                                          bem
                                                          feitas(antes
                                                          eram muito
                                                          grandes),
                                                          ambiente
                                                          limpo,
                                                          organizado,</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ao nível de
                                                          Digium.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">   Agora me
                                                          pergunto, eles
                                                          não começaram
                                                          assim ? como
                                                          um dongle da
                                                          vida?</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">   A
                                                          diferença
                                                          entre fornecer
                                                          uma gambiarra
                                                          e um produto
                                                          sólido, é se
                                                          ele atende o
                                                          cliente, com
                                                          qualidade e
                                                          preparo</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">técnico, já
                                                          fiz isso
                                                          muitas vezes,
                                                          pra solucionar
                                                          o problema do
                                                          cliente, mas
                                                          deixava ele
                                                          bem ciente
                                                          disso, se o</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">cara tem
                                                          consciência de
                                                          que tá
                                                          comprado algo
                                                          fundo de
                                                          quintal, não
                                                          vejo problema,
                                                          mas usar essa
                                                          artimanha</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">em uma
                                                          venda
                                                          profissional,
                                                          é no mínimo
                                                          desonesto,
                                                          nefasto e
                                                          desleal.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> 
                                                           Vou até
                                                          comprar um pra
                                                          fazer teste
                                                          aqui em casa,
                                                          como
                                                          conhecimento,
                                                          qual deles vai
                                                          ser, ou </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">quanto
                                                          tempo esse
                                                          trem vai
                                                          durar? não
                                                          sei, mas o
                                                          cliente tem
                                                          que ciência
                                                          completa do
                                                          que se trata.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> 
                                                           Esse é meu
                                                          ponto de
                                                          vista.</span></p>
                                                          <pre style="line-height:12.75pt"><span style="color:#2a2a2a">Hudson  <a href="tel:%28048%29%208413-7000" target="_blank">(048) 8413-7000</a> Para quem nao cre, nenhuma prova converte,Para aquele que cre, nenhuma prova precisa. </span></pre>

                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center">
                                                          <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          Date: Fri, 30
                                                          Aug 2013
                                                          09:38:17 -0300<br>
                                                          From: <a href="mailto:jersonjunior@bsd.com.br" target="_blank">jersonjunior@bsd.com.br</a>
                                                          </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <br>
                                                          To: <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                                                          Subject: Re:
                                                          [AsteriskBrasil]
                                                          Gatway com
                                                          chan_dongle</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          Chan_dongle
                                                          arrebenta!!</p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Em

                                                          30 de agosto
                                                          de 2013 00:22,
                                                          Miqueias
                                                          Queiroz Decco
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:miqueiasdecco@hotmail.com" target="_blank">miqueiasdecco@hotmail.com</a>&gt;

                                                          escreveu:</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">É
                                                          certo que se
                                                          não fossem
                                                          esses testes,
                                                          estaríamos
                                                          ainda no mundo
                                                          do PABX e o
                                                          asterisk
                                                          jamais sairia
                                                          do papel. </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Miqueias Decco</p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center">
                                                          <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:22:44 -0300<br>
                                                          From: <a href="mailto:otavioasterisk@gmail.com" target="_blank">otavioasterisk@gmail.com</a><br>
                                                          To: <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                                                          Subject: Re:
                                                          [AsteriskBrasil]
                                                          Gatway com
                                                          chan_dongle</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Boa

                                                          noite lista.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Márcio,

                                                          sou um feliz
                                                          cliente do
                                                          Giovanni e de
                                                          seus gateways.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Antes

                                                          utilizava
                                                          gateways da
                                                          Goip q, de um
                                                          dia pro outro,
                                                          simplesmente
                                                          pararam de
                                                          funcionar e me
                                                          deixaram na
                                                          mão.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Estou

                                                          utilizando um
                                                          Alix + 4
                                                          modens (não me
                                                          lembro o
                                                          modelo) com
                                                          teste de
                                                          portabilidade
                                                          do Udson
                                                          (brfone
                                                          telecom) e
                                                          recomendo
                                                          100%.
                                                          Qualidade de
                                                          ligações 100%,
                                                          nunca tive
                                                          travamentos ou
                                                          queda nas
                                                          ligações e
                                                          esse cenário
                                                          já está há 30
                                                          dias em
                                                          produção e
                                                          nesse período,
                                                          nenhum
                                                          problema.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Já

                                                          adquiri o
                                                          segundo
                                                          gateway, agora
                                                          com 8 modens
                                                          (e303) q está
                                                          previsto para
                                                          ser implantado
                                                          num cliente em
                                                          no máximo 15
                                                          dias, e não
                                                          tenho o menor
                                                          receio, tanto
                                                          pela
                                                          qualidade,
                                                          quanto pela
                                                          suporte q
                                                          recebo da
                                                          dupla Giovanni
                                                          e Udson.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">E
                                                          fique
                                                          tranquilo pois
                                                          não tenho
                                                          interesse
                                                          nenhum em
                                                          divulgar pois
                                                          não sou
                                                          patrocinado
                                                          pelo Giovanni
                                                          muito menos
                                                          pelo Udson.
                                                          Simplesmente
                                                          acho que temos
                                                          q divulgar o q
                                                          é bom.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Antes

                                                          de adquirir o
                                                          gateway do
                                                          Giovanni, eu
                                                          montei um com
                                                          um server
                                                          rodando debian
                                                          + modem porém
                                                          tive alguns
                                                          pouquissimos
                                                          problemas com
                                                          travamento,
                                                          porém não
                                                          tendo tempo
                                                          para afinar a
                                                          configuração,
                                                          resolvi
                                                          comprar.... E
                                                          mesmo com
                                                          esses
                                                          problemas, a
                                                          qualidade da
                                                          ligação era
                                                          perfeita e não
                                                          tinha
                                                          quedas...</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Abraços

                                                          a todos...</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Em

                                                          29 de agosto
                                                          de 2013 17:48,
                                                          Giovanni &lt;<a href="mailto:giovbs@gmail.com" target="_blank">giovbs@gmail.com</a>&gt;

                                                          escreveu:</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Marcio,

                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">não

                                                          concordo
                                                          100%...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Foi eu que
                                                          montei este
                                                          gateway (<a href="http://goo.gl/sOAtB" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm;text-decoration:none">goo.gl/sOAtB</span></a>) e

                                                          este é só um
                                                          teste em
                                                          ambiente de
                                                          produção (e
                                                          minha
                                                          continuação do
                                                          laboratório
                                                          com Dongle).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          QUERO
                                                          EVIDENCIAR que
                                                          o cliente não
                                                          pagou e não
                                                          está pagando
                                                          nem um
                                                          centavos por
                                                          isso e não
                                                          vejo motivo
                                                          por o
                                                          empregados de
                                                          esta empresa
                                                          ser mentirosos
                                                          relatando esta
                                                          &#39;sensação&#39;
                                                          positiva que
                                                          as ligações
                                                          som melhores
                                                          dos outros
                                                          gateways que
                                                          utilizam. EU
                                                          VI
                                                          PESSOALMENTE:
                                                          os modem E303
                                                          neste caso tem
                                                          melhor
                                                          recepção de
                                                          sinal (RSSI)
                                                          dos Portech
                                                          pois os
                                                          Portech,
                                                          colocados na
                                                          mesma sala,
                                                          nem consegue
                                                          &#39;ver&#39; o sinal
                                                          da torre. Por
                                                          receber o
                                                          sinal este 12
                                                          portech MV378
                                                          (96 canais
                                                          GSM) som
                                                          montados perto
                                                          uma janela no
                                                          andar mais
                                                          alto (segundo
                                                          andar) por
                                                          assim poder
                                                          colocar as
                                                          antenas fora
                                                          da janela...
                                                          mas Modem E303
                                                          nesta sala
                                                          (andar 0) toda
                                                          fechada e sem
                                                          janelas cheia
                                                          de Rack, UPS,
                                                          torres, etc
                                                          etc tem RSSI
                                                          entre 8 e 18
                                                          conseguindo
                                                          até então
                                                          passar mais de
                                                          60.000
                                                          ligações....</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Estou

                                                          muito
                                                          cuidadoso nas
                                                          minha
                                                          declarações e
                                                          NUNCA VENDI
                                                          UMA gambiarras
                                                          em toda minha
                                                          vida...cliente
                                                          tem que ser
                                                          CIENTE de todo
                                                          e FELIZ ou nao
                                                          é mim cliente
                                                          pois não
                                                          vendo! EU não
                                                          gosto de
                                                          clientes
                                                          insatisfeitos
                                                          me cobrando!
                                                          Quem me
                                                          conhece sabe
                                                          de isso.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Vendei

                                                          algumas
                                                          soluções e
                                                          ajudei muita
                                                          gente da lista
                                                          em colocar em
                                                          teste ou
                                                          produção
                                                          chan_dongle e
                                                          afins!<br>
                                                          E som todos
                                                          satisfeitos e
                                                          CIENTES das
                                                          coisas. tenho
                                                          outros
                                                          clientes
                                                          relatando
                                                          qualidade é
                                                          melhor de
                                                          Outros...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          CLARO que eu
                                                          não vou
                                                          declarar que
                                                          seja a melhor
                                                          solução
                                                          gateway mas
                                                          garanto que
                                                          funfa bem se
                                                          lembramos de
                                                          utilizar os
                                                          devidos
                                                          coitados! </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          Marcio convido
                                                          o Sr. a montar
                                                          seu ambiente
                                                          de teste... A
                                                          qualidade é a
                                                          mesma de uma
                                                          ligação GSM
                                                          entre
                                                          celulares/smartphones
                                                          e a qualidade
                                                          não depende só
                                                          do gateway
                                                          mas também da
                                                          rede das
                                                          Operadoras e
                                                          TODOS sabemos
                                                          que não é boa
                                                          &quot;assim&quot;...
                                                          Assim se a
                                                          rede da
                                                          operadora é
                                                          RUIM qualquer
                                                          gateway GSM
                                                          irá ser ruim
                                                          incluindo os
                                                          TOP DE LINHA.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">E
                                                          acho que seria
                                                          interessante
                                                          que tivesse
                                                          alguém
                                                          tentando
                                                          melhorar este
                                                          modulo (código
                                                          fonte)
                                                          cha_dongle e
                                                          não só
                                                          criticar...Assim,
                                                          gostaria de
                                                          lhe enviar uma
                                                          Alix, um modem
                                                          E160 e o
                                                          sistema
                                                          instalado...
                                                          como presente
                                                          de
                                                          laboratório! Não
                                                          me veja a mau
                                                          é material que
                                                          tenho em mim
                                                          laboratório
                                                          (que é usado)
                                                          mas lhe doo de
                                                          vontade por
                                                          você testar e
                                                          depois me
                                                          dizer se é
                                                          gambiarra!
                                                          Pois respeito
                                                          sua pessoa e
                                                          gostaria você
                                                          testasse antes
                                                          de falar assim
                                                          mau.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Caso

                                                          aceite aguardo
                                                          seu endereço
                                                          em PVT por
                                                          encomendar.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          Abraço</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Giovanni</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">skype:

                                                          giovbs</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Em

                                                          29 de agosto
                                                          de 2013 16:08,
                                                          Marcio -
                                                          Google &lt;<a href="mailto:marciorp@gmail.com" target="_blank">marciorp@gmail.com</a>&gt;

                                                          escreveu: </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Olha, na
                                                          boa mesmo!
                                                          Respeito quem
                                                          queira usar
                                                          gambiarras, é
                                                          escolha. Não
                                                          concordo com
                                                          isso e não
                                                          apoio.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Agora dizer
                                                          que uma
                                                          gambiarra
                                                          dessas
                                                          funciona
                                                          melhor que
                                                          equipamento
                                                          profissionais
                                                          força a barra,
                                                          chega beirar o
                                                          ridículo.
                                                          Chega ser
                                                          falta de
                                                          respeito com
                                                          os colegas
                                                          sérios aqui da
                                                          lista!</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">É a mesma
                                                          coisa que
                                                          dizer que
                                                          pegando um
                                                          teco-teco e
                                                          pendurando
                                                          umas
                                                          metralhadoras
                                                          nele ele vai
                                                          fazer o
                                                          serviço melhor
                                                          que um F-16.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Acho que
                                                          cada um tem
                                                          que vender o
                                                          seu peixe, mas
                                                          um pouco de
                                                          sensatez não
                                                          custa nada!</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Assim como
                                                          eu, há outros
                                                          na lista que
                                                          trabalham com
                                                          Asterisk/Callcenter/VoIP

                                                          há muitos anos
                                                          e em sistemas
                                                          de grande
                                                          porte. Nós
                                                          dizer isso é o
                                                          mesmo que nos
                                                          chamarmos de
                                                          burros,
                                                          ignorantes e
                                                          ladrões, por
                                                          termos feitos
                                                          nossos
                                                          clientes
                                                          gastarem
                                                          centenas de
                                                          dezenas de
                                                          reais eu
                                                          equipamentos
                                                          profissionais
                                                          enquanto meia
                                                          dúzia de
                                                          gabiarras e
                                                          aberrações há
                                                          1/10 do valor
                                                          fariam a mesma
                                                          coisa com a
                                                          mesma
                                                          estabilidade,
                                                          segurança,
                                                          disponibilidade
                                                          e qualidade.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Porque será
                                                          que quando
                                                          recebemos
                                                          ligações de
                                                          certos TMs
                                                          Ativos o áudio
                                                          é limpo,
                                                          nítido, não há
                                                          barulho de
                                                          fundo, não há
                                                          chiado, não há
                                                          picote?
                                                          Enquanto
                                                          outras
                                                          ligações
                                                          parece que
                                                          estamos
                                                          falando com
                                                          alguém que
                                                          está em uma
                                                          boate marciana
                                                          fazendo a
                                                          chamada por um
                                                          VoIP de
                                                          Saturno?</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Pois é,
                                                          essa é a
                                                          diferença! O
                                                          primeiro usa
                                                          equipamentos
                                                          profissionais,
                                                          com qualidade
                                                          industrial, em
                                                          ambientes
                                                          projetados e
                                                          executados por
                                                          profissionais
                                                          qualificadas!
                                                          O segundo,
                                                          bom, acho que
                                                          não preciso
                                                          detalhar!</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Já que a
                                                          lista agora é
                                                          vitrine de
                                                          casos de
                                                          sucesso, vou
                                                          contar um de
                                                          insucesso.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Esses dias
                                                          me ligaram
                                                          umas 5 vezes,
                                                          sempre de
                                                          números
                                                          celulares
                                                          diferentes,
                                                          mas do mesmo
                                                          &quot;callcenter&quot;
                                                          oferecendo o
                                                          mesmo produto.
                                                          A ligação era
                                                          uma porcaria!
                                                          Depois da
                                                          última ligação
                                                          eu resolvi
                                                          retornar em um
                                                          dos números,
                                                          depois de umas
                                                          20 tentativas
                                                          consegui ser
                                                          atendido. As
                                                          outras 19 ou
                                                          caia, ou não
                                                          me escutava,
                                                          ou eu não
                                                          escutava, ou
                                                          chiava demais
                                                          ...</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Bom, depois
                                                          de um papo com
                                                          a atendente
                                                          consegui que
                                                          ela me
                                                          transferisse
                                                          para o
                                                          &quot;supervisor&quot;,
                                                          que depois de
                                                          um pequeno
                                                          papo descobri
                                                          que era dono.
                                                          Conversei com
                                                          ele uns 20
                                                          minutos e
                                                          convenci ele a
                                                          me passar o
                                                          contato do
                                                          &quot;cara&quot; que
                                                          monto a
                                                          estrutura
                                                          dele, mas
                                                          nisso já tinha
                                                          alguns
                                                          detalhes,
                                                          tipo: &quot;trava
                                                          tudo umas três
                                                          vezes por
                                                          dias&quot;, &quot;as
                                                          vezes a
                                                          ligação fica
                                                          muito ruim&quot;,
                                                          &quot;de vez em
                                                          quando tem que
                                                          instalar tudo
                                                          de novo&quot;, etc.
                                                          De outro
                                                          e-mail meu
                                                          passei uma
                                                          mensagem pro
                                                          cidadão
                                                          falando quem
                                                          tinha me
                                                          indicado e
                                                          pedindo um
                                                          orçamento, não
                                                          demorou foi
                                                          respondido.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Não sei se
                                                          fiquei com
                                                          raiva ou com
                                                          pena do
                                                          individuo. Dei
                                                          corda pra ele
                                                          e depois de
                                                          vários vai e
                                                          vem de e-mail,
                                                          ele citou até
                                                          a lista aqui
                                                          pra eu mesmo
                                                          fazer a
                                                          manutenção
                                                          tirando
                                                          dúvidas, além
                                                          de uma relação
                                                          de uns 20
                                                          clientes pra
                                                          pedir
                                                          referência.
                                                          Desses
                                                          clientes: 6 =
                                                          satisfeitos
                                                          (incluindo o
                                                          que me passou
                                                          o contato dele
                                                          e todos
                                                          confirmando os
                                                          travamentos e
                                                          etc) / 5 = com
                                                          problemas/pendências

                                                          (travamentos,
                                                          qualidade das
                                                          ligações, etc)
                                                          / 5 = Tinham
                                                          jogado a
                                                          solução no
                                                          lixo / 4 =
                                                          queriam dar
                                                          uma surra
                                                          nele.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Ah, ele
                                                          disse que eu
                                                          iria precisar
                                                          de um
                                                          computador,
                                                          que podia
                                                          compra as
                                                          peças no
                                                          Mercadolivre
                                                          pra ficar mais
                                                          barato, alguns
                                                          atas que eu
                                                          poderia
                                                          comprar na
                                                          China (pelo
                                                          eBay), e
                                                          pasmem, um
                                                          &quot;modem gsm
                                                          desses que usa
                                                          para internet
                                                          3G&quot; para cada
                                                          linha de
                                                          celular e hub
                                                          usb com porta
                                                          para a
                                                          quantidade de
                                                          modens. E que
                                                          talvez tivesse
                                                          que mandar os
                                                          modens pra ele
                                                          configurar, ou
                                                          se eu quisesse
                                                          ele me
                                                          venderia já
                                                          configurado.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Todo dia
                                                          ele me manda
                                                          um e-mail
                                                          perguntando se
                                                          vou fechar e
                                                          me dando um
                                                          &quot;descontinho&quot;
                                                          a mais na mão
                                                          de obra.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Triste viu!</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                          [...]&#39;s<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Marcio </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">========================================</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">###########
                                                          Campanha Ajude
                                                          o Marcio!
                                                          ###########</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href="http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/</span></a></span></p>

                                                          </div>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href="http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793</span></a></span></p>

                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">========================================</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">  </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Em

                                                          29 de agosto
                                                          de 2013 13:56,
                                                          Daniel Roberto
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:daniel@oxmundi.com.br" target="_blank">daniel@oxmundi.com.br</a>&gt;

                                                          escreveu: </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Qual

                                                          marca do Hub?</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Em

                                                          29 de agosto
                                                          de 2013 14:44,
                                                          Everton
                                                          Carneiro &lt;<a href="mailto:everton@visaotecnologia.com" target="_blank">everton@visaotecnologia.com</a>&gt;

                                                          escreveu: </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">no

                                                          de 16 um hub
                                                          profissional
                                                          de 16 portas
                                                          USB.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Em

                                                          29 de agosto
                                                          de 2013 14:33,
                                                          Daniel Roberto
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:daniel@oxmundi.com.br" target="_blank">daniel@oxmundi.com.br</a>&gt;

                                                          escreveu: </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Olá

                                                          Everton, </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Qual

                                                          modelo de
                                                          régua USB para
                                                          conectar os
                                                          modens você
                                                          está
                                                          utilizando?</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Att,</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          Em 29 de
                                                          agosto de 2013
                                                          14:28, Everton
                                                          Carneiro &lt;<a href="mailto:everton@visaotecnologia.com" target="_blank">everton@visaotecnologia.com</a>&gt;

                                                          escreveu:</p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Compartinhando

                                                          experiência: </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Pessoal

                                                          estava usando
                                                          varios gatway
                                                          de 4 portas
                                                          feito com
                                                          cha_dongle e
                                                          os mesmo
                                                          funcionam
                                                          muito bem ate
                                                          o o dia de
                                                          hoje estou
                                                          muito
                                                          satisfeito com
                                                          essa solução,
                                                          mas tenho uma
                                                          melhor!...
                                                          estou com um
                                                          de 16 modens
                                                          E303
                                                          (homologado)
                                                          usando Alix,
                                                          pessoal esse é
                                                          que mim
                                                          surpreendeu
                                                          mesmo já esta
                                                          a mais de 45
                                                          dias em 1
                                                          callcenter
                                                          aqui em
                                                          Fortaleza e
                                                          esta 100%
                                                          funcional com
                                                          todas as
                                                          portas
                                                          simultânea.
                                                          muito bom
                                                          mesmo, ate o
                                                          sinal esta
                                                          melhor que
                                                          gatways de
                                                          marcas (X,Y,Z)
                                                          que tenho em
                                                          produção.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Isso

                                                          tudo é mérito
                                                          de nossa lista
                                                          e em
                                                          particular
                                                          nosso amigo
                                                          Giovanni e
                                                          Paulo muito
                                                          grato pessoal.
                                                               <span style="color:#888888"><br clear="all">
                                                          </span></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">-- </span></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#000099;background:#ffffcc">Everton Carneiro .:</span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Visão Tecnologia</span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Fortaleza-CE  <a href="tel:85-3044%208888" target="_blank">85-3044 8888</a> / 3044-8844</span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Cel: Tim         <a href="tel:85-9665%200888" target="_blank">85-9665 0888</a> </span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#5b5b5b">Preserve

                                                          o verde, antes
                                                          de imprimir
                                                          veja se
                                                          realmente é
                                                          necessário.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores

                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores

                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                          <br clear="all">
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">--

                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <b><span style="color:#000099;background:#ffffcc">Everton

                                                          Carneiro .:</span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Visão Tecnologia</span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <b><span style="color:black">Fortaleza-CE 

                                                          <a href="tel:85-3044%208888" target="_blank">85-3044 8888</a> / 3044-8844</span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Cel: Tim         <a href="tel:85-9665%200888" target="_blank">85-9665 0888</a> </span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#5b5b5b">Preserve

                                                          o verde, antes
                                                          de imprimir
                                                          veja se
                                                          realmente é
                                                          necessário.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores

                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores

                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores

                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores

                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                          <br clear="all">
                                                          <br>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Otávio </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________

                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;
                                                          Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP. Conhe<span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">�</span>a
                                                          em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.
                                                          _______________________________________________
                                                          ALIGERA <span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">�</span>
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7. Placas de
                                                          1E1, 2E1, 4E1
                                                          e 8E1 para PCI
                                                          ou PCI
                                                          Express.
                                                          Channel Bank <span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">�</span>
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.
                                                          _______________________________________________

                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores

                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                          _______________________________________________

                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;
                                                          Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP. Conhe<span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">�</span>a
                                                          em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.
                                                          _______________________________________________
                                                          ALIGERA <span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">�</span>
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7. Placas de
                                                          1E1, 2E1, 4E1
                                                          e 8E1 para PCI
                                                          ou PCI
                                                          Express.
                                                          Channel Bank <span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">�</span>
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.
                                                          _______________________________________________

                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores

                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </blockquote>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"><br>
                                                    <br clear="all">
                                                  </span></p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"> </span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="color:#888888">-- <br>
                                                  </span><span>Sylvio
                                                    Jollenbeck<br>
                                                  </span><span><a href="http://www.hosannatecnologia.com.br/" target="_blank">www.hosannatecnologia.com.br</a></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                  KHOMP: completa linha
                                                  de placas externas
                                                  FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                  Media Gateways de 1 a
                                                  64 E1s para SIP com
                                                  R2, ISDN e SS7;</p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores

                                                  para acesso remoto via
                                                  rede IP. Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                  ALIGERA – Fabricante
                                                  nacional de Gateways
                                                  SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e
                                                  SS7.<br>
                                                  Placas de 1E1, 2E1,
                                                  4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou
                                                  PCI Express.<br>
                                                  Channel Bank –
                                                  Appliance Asterisk -
                                                  Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                  Para remover seu email
                                                  desta lista, basta
                                                  enviar um email em
                                                  branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                          <pre>_______________________________________________</pre>
                                          <div>
                                            <pre> </pre>
                                            <pre>KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;</pre>
                                            <pre>Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;</pre>
                                          </div>
                                          <pre>Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.</pre>
                                          <div>
                                            <pre>_______________________________________________</pre>
                                            <pre>ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.</pre>
                                            <pre>Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.</pre>
                                            <pre>Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.</pre>
                                            <pre>_______________________________________________</pre>
                                            <pre>Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></pre>

                                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:#888888"><br>
                                                <br>
                                              </span></p>
                                            <pre><span style="color:#888888">-- </span></pre>
                                          </div>
                                          <pre><span style="color:#888888">[]&#39;s</span></pre>
                                          <pre><span style="color:#888888"> </span></pre>
                                          <pre><span style="color:#888888">Junior Polegato</span></pre>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                            KHOMP: completa linha de
                                            placas externas FXO, FXS,
                                            GSM e E1;<br>
                                            Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s
                                            para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;</p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores

                                            para acesso remoto via rede
                                            IP. Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                            ALIGERA – Fabricante
                                            nacional de Gateways SIP-E1
                                            para R2, ISDN e SS7.<br>
                                            Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e
                                            8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.<br>
                                            Channel Bank – Appliance
                                            Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                            Para remover seu email desta
                                            lista, basta enviar um email
                                            em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas
                                FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP
                                com R2, ISDN e SS7;<br>
                                Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto
                                via rede IP. Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de
                                Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.<br>
                                Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI
                                ou PCI Express.<br>
                                Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk -
                                Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                Para remover seu email desta lista,
                                basta enviar um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                            </div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS,
                      GSM e E1;<br>
                      Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN
                      e SS7;<br>
                      Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP.
                      Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1
                      para R2, ISDN e SS7.<br>
                      Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI
                      Express.<br>
                      Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar
                      um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </div>
                  <br>
                </div>
                <br>
                <fieldset></fieldset>
                <br>
                <pre>_______________________________________________
KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;
Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;
Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.
_______________________________________________
ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.
Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.
Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.
_______________________________________________
Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></pre>

              </blockquote>
              <br>
            </div>
            <br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
            Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;<br>
            Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conheça
            em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2,
            ISDN e SS7.<br>
            Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.<br>
            Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar um email em
            branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <br>
        <br clear="all">
        <div><br>
        </div>
        -- <br>
        <div dir="ltr">
          <div><font style="background-color:rgb(255,255,204)" color="#000099"><b>Everton Carneiro .:</b></font></div>
          <div><font color="#000000"><b>Visão Tecnologia<br>
              </b></font></div>
          <div><font color="#000000"><b>Fortaleza-CE  85-3044 8888 /
                3044-8844<br>
              </b></font></div>
          <div><font color="#000000"><b>Cel: Tim         <a href="tel:85-9665%200888" value="+18596650888" target="_blank">85-9665 0888</a> <br>
              </b></font></div>
          <div> </div>
          <div><span style="color:rgb(91,91,91);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt"><span style="color:rgb(91,91,91);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">
              </span>Preserve
              o verde, antes de imprimir veja se realmente é necessário.</span></div>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre>_______________________________________________
KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;
Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;
Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.
_______________________________________________
ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.
Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.
Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.
_______________________________________________
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KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;<br>
Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
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ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.<br>
Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.<br>
Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
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<br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Luciano Alves Barroso<br>Equipe de Desenvolvimento DigiVoice Channel Driver &amp; DigiVoice Meucci<br><a href="http://www.digivoice.com.br" target="_blank">www.digivoice.com.br</a><br>
<a href="http://www.meucci.org" target="_blank">www.meucci.org</a>
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