<div dir="ltr">concordo se eu soubesse que iria causar isso, desculpas a todos. vamos pra frente somos uma comunidade.  </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Em 2 de setembro de 2013 12:41, Patrick El Youssef <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:wushumasters@gmail.com" target="_blank">wushumasters@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> escreveu:<br>
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    Pessoal,<br>
    <br>
    Não sei os outros, mas acho que ja ficou bem claro esse assunto<br>
    <br>
    Vocês já estão brigando por nada<br>
    <br>
    Modem, Placa, GoIP usem o que quiserem cada um na sua<br>
    <br>
    Acho que esse debate não leva  a lugar nenhum<br>
    <br>
    Só minha opinião<br>
    <br>
    Valeu<br>
    <br>
    <div>Em 02-09-2013 12:32, Marcio - Google
      escreveu:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Paulo
          Fernandes, pelo link da Huawei que me mandou dá pra ter noção
          do seu conhecimento, nulo. Você nunca viu e provavelmente nem
          sabe o que é um modem GSM.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">&quot;<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px">12
            mil chamadas em 16 horas</span>&quot; huau, nossa ...
          kkkkkkkkkkkk ... Quando tiver um teste de um sistema no ar a
          mais de 365 dias e com mais de 13 milhões de minutos em canais
          GSM, a gente conversa! Até lá, estuda e para de escrever
          besteiras.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Em tempo, além
          da formação em eletrônica, apesar de não exercer, sempre
          brinquei com microcontroladores e sistemas embarcados. Você
          pelo contrario não sabe o básico para discutir se um circuito
          é adequado ou não para uma função, é isso dá para ter certeza
          pelo fato de você confundir o modem GSM com o produto final, o
          pen modem ... kkkkkkkk.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Aproveite as
          dezenas de colegas aqui na lista, com vasto conhecimento não
          só em Asterisk, e aprenda um pouco para não passar vergonha!</div>
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            Marcio
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        <div class="gmail_quote">Em 2 de setembro de 2013 08:47, Paulo
          Fernandes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:paulofernandes@maisradio.com.br" target="_blank">paulofernandes@maisradio.com.br</a>&gt;</span>
          escreveu:<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Rsrs.</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Ou
                    seus remédios o faz mal, ou você precisa descer um
                    pouco do pedestal onde se encontra.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Mais
                    um vez você é um poço que achismos.... REPITO: Nunca
                    testou e fala mal! E se propõe a testar é porque
                    realmente NUNCA TESTOU!</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Mas
                    se você pediu está aqui:</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.huaweidevice.co.in/Products/MobileBroadband/compare-data-cards.php" target="_blank">http://www.huaweidevice.co.in/Products/MobileBroadband/compare-data-cards.php</a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"></span></p>

                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Tem
                    aqui uma comparação dos modens vendidos pela Huawei,
                    e se der para ver de cima do seu pedestal, dá uma
                    olha lá em </span><strong><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#5f5f5f;background:white">Voice
                      call Support (Support PC Voice call Support)</span></strong><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Meus
                    Deus!! Tem suporte sim a voz.... Não é gambiarra!!!!
                    Fala sério Marcio! Conhece a diferença de capacitor
                    sólido e eletrolítico, deve ter lido muito sobre o
                    assunto, mas seu preconceito não o deixa ver outras
                    coisas tão simples,  como isso. Somente o rei que
                    está dentro da sua barriga que te falou isso? Que
                    não tem suporte a voz?</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Se
                    o modem não aguenta uma alta carga de ligações isso
                    é uma outra coisa, e posso acreditar que pode
                    aguentar pelo menos algo pelo teste abaixo:</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tar7ZqEagk&amp;feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tar7ZqEagk&amp;feature=player_embedded</a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"></span></p>

                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">12
                    mil chamadas em 16 horas... é.... posso acreditar
                    neste teste....</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Mas
                    qual teste mesmo que você realizou?</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Eu
                    estou dentro disso há meses, participando de N
                    testes... </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal">
                  <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Se
                    falo aqui é com base nos testes que realizamos e não
                    na base de achismos como sempre faz....<br>
                    <br>
                  </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Seu
                    pedestal é tão alto e teu achismo é tão imenso que
                    eu não posso acreditar em nenhum teste que venha a
                    realizar... Tá na cara que não é isento!</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Para
                    mim, você não é mais confiável caso realize teste!
                    Seu orgulho e arrogância me permite constatar isso!</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">De:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                    <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a>
                    [mailto:<a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a>]
                    <b>Em nome de </b>Marcio - Google<br>
                    <b>Enviada em:</b> domingo, 1 de setembro de 2013
                    22:46<br>
                    <b>Para:</b> <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                    <b>Assunto:</b> Re: [AsteriskBrasil] RES: Gatway com
                    chan_dongle</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Paulo
                        Fernandes, desculpe a demora na resposta. Pedi
                        para o meu filho de 8 anos interpretar o texto
                        que escrevi, e agora tenho segurança para dizer
                        que você faltou muita aula do ensino fundamental
                        ou é ferrenho defensor de gambiarras!</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Dito
                        isso, vamos lá:</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">1.
                        Não falo/escrevo sobre o que não conheço. O
                        chan_dongle é uma gambiarra e pen modens não são
                        para esse propósito.</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Em
                        tempo, e antes de perder mais o meu tempo: Sabe
                        o que é tolerância em um resistor? Sabe a
                        diferença de um capacitor sólido e um
                        eletrolítico? Se não souber pelo menos isso, e
                        não vale pesquisar no Dr. Google, não adianta
                        aprofundar a discussão.</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2.
                        A Huawei pode ser um grande fabricante, como
                        tantos outros, e como esses outros tem produtos
                        voltados para diferentes perfis e com diferentes
                        qualidades. O modem usando em um pen modem não é
                        para esse perfil de uso e muito menos de
                        primeira linha! E um modem barato, produzido com
                        componentes baratos, com um controle de
                        qualidade menos exigente e para ser usado em um
                        ambiente sem grandes exigências. Totalmente
                        diferente de um modem de primeira
                        linha/industrial. Antes de falar besteira e
                        passar vergonha, tenha embasamento técnico!</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3.
                        Apesar de não precisar testar para saber se é
                        bom ou não, como disse analisei o source. E sim,
                        fiz testes superficiais. E o mais importante,
                        tive feedback de várias pessoas, inclusive aqui
                        da lista, e todas testaram e me deram o parecer
                        negativo a essa gambiarra. Infelizmente pelo
                        visto não querem se expor e entrar em uma flame.</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">E
                        já que o negocio é testar, vou testar como o
                        Giovanni propôs.</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">4.
                        Já que é tão entendido em modem GSM, me liste os
                        principais fabricantes? Mas quem realmente
                        fabrica, não quem pega o modem e solda em uma
                        plaquinha. Aliás, você sabe o que é o modem GSM?</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">5.
                        Já que é tão fã da Huawei, consiga com eles um
                        laudo atestando que esses pen-modens são
                        adequados a esse uso. Também aproveite e pegue o
                        catalogo de modens e suas aplicações.</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">6.
                        O chan_dongle dá sinais de excelente qualidade?
                        Onde? Só se for em Marte? O produto que nem
                        padrão de hardware tem. Há meia dúzia de
                        pen-modens que funcionam bem, e amanha ou depois
                        se não forem mais fabricados? Exatamente a mesma
                        coisa que os produtos profissionais, né?</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">7.
                        Não adianta carregar minha opinião de &quot;elementos
                        relevantes&quot; se você provavelmente não sabe o
                        básico, e dá para perceber isso só pelo fato de
                        você não saber a diferença entre os tipos de
                        modem GSM e seus perfis de uso. Mas se quiser,
                        podemos discutir desde o projeto de um modem GSM
                        e seus componentes, passando pelo processo de
                        produção, e até o source do fantástico
                        chan_dongle.</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">8.
                        Finalizando, sobre a Khomp, ela é um dos
                        melhores fabricantes nacionais, tem seus
                        tropeços, como todos. Como disse, usa
                        componentes de primeira. O problema resume-se ao
                        channel, e mesmo não podendo mais usa-la nesse
                        cliente em especifico, posso usar em vários
                        outros assim que o channel estiver 100%. Não é
                        atoa que estou fortemente propenso a usar o
                        hardware da Khomp para um projeto que estou
                        trabalhando, por dois fatores muito simples: 1.
                        Hardware de qualidade; e 2. Continuidade e
                        padronização do hardware.</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Apenas
                        para ilustrar o que você não conseguiu entender:</span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;...
                            as coisas estão fluindo mais, estamos
                            interagindo mais e consequentemente os
                            problemas vem sendo identificados e
                            corrigidos.&quot;</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt"></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;...
                            Eles tem vários outros produtos impares no
                            mercado, mas hoje tenho um pé atrás. ...
                            Pelo menos componentes de qualidade eles
                            usam, e não dá pra comparar com gambiarras
                            ou mesmo GoIP da vida.&quot;</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt"></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;Mas
                            eles tem estrutura para isso e podem
                            melhorar! Tem gente dedicada a isso,
                            recebendo salário para isso! Falta abrir a
                            cabeça um pouco. Tem pessoas excelentes lá,
                            o profissional que tenho contato direito é
                            muito bom. Apesar do começo ruim, é um dos
                            fornecedores que estou apostando para um
                            projeto que está no formo.&quot;</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt"></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Fui!</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"></span></p>

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                        [...]&#39;s<br>
                        <br>
                        Marcio</p>
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                              Campanha Ajude o Marcio! ###########</span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href="http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/</span></a></span></p>

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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href="http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793</span></a></span></p>

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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Em 30 de agosto de 2013 22:48,
                      Paulo Fernandes &lt;<a href="mailto:paulofernandes@maisradio.com.br" target="_blank">paulofernandes@maisradio.com.br</a>&gt;
                      escreveu:</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Pelo
                            que entendi, conhece bem Khomp e não
                            recomenda, mas há meses testa e desenvolve.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Não
                            conhece e não quer testar Chan_Dongle, mas
                            critica ferrenhamente.</span></p>
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                          <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Só
                            por esta discrepância é estranho se portar
                            assim. Há algo errado.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Prefere
                            algo proprietário ruim do que desenvolver
                            algo aberto que dá sinais de excelente
                            qualidade.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Eu
                            tentaria desenvolver algo novo e não ajudar
                            uma empresa que como seu cliente diz, não
                            quer mais nem uma arruela. A não ser que as
                            arruelas me seja mais vantajoso
                            financeiramente.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Sobre
                            modens GSM, não posso comparar a maior
                            fabricante HUAWEI com nenhuma outra ,
                            infelizmente não há comparação. Prefiro
                            confiar numa empresa do porte da Huawei do
                            que em qualquer outra.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Por
                            fim não sei de onde tirou que o produto não
                            tem estabilidade, se não testou. <br>
                            E não sei de onde tirou que é improvisação,
                            se a maioria dos modens huawei vem com opção
                            já ativada de voz, são feitos para isso
                            também.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Acho
                            que você está confundindo modem Paraguai com
                            modem original huawei. Modem huawei deve ter
                            no mínimo 100 vezes mais de engenheiros e
                            profissionais 100x mais habilitados do que
                            Khomp.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">A
                            improvisação é num HUB USB? </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Acha
                            mesmo que a gambiarra é um HUB USB?</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Ou
                            não quer admitir que está diante de algo
                            sério e que funciona a contento?</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Acho
                            que deve admitir ou realizar seus próprios
                            testes para que sua opinião seja mais 
                            carregada de informações relevantes.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">De:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                            <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a>
                            [mailto:<a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-bounces@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a>]
                            <b>Em nome de </b>Marcio - Google<br>
                            <b>Enviada em:</b> sexta-feira, 30 de agosto
                            de 2013 22:36<br>
                            <b>Para:</b> <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                            <b>Assunto:</b> Re: [AsteriskBrasil] Gatway
                            com chan_dongle</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Putz,
                                    como disse a algum tempo atrás,
                                    estou velho pra flames ... mesmo
                                    tendo 35 anos, tenho o corpo e
                                    cabeça de 60 ... 300mg/dia de
                                    morfina + 40mg/dia de metadona são
                                    fantásticas para causar esse efeito.
                                    Recomendo!</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Não
                                    vou mais responder, exceto se
                                    convencido ao contrário ... rsrsrs</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Bom,
                                    como diria Jack, vamos por partes:</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">1.
                                    Não me referi a você ou a seu
                                    trabalho em especifico Giovanni, me
                                    referi a gambiarras em geral,
                                    infelizmente o chan_dongle é a bola
                                    da vez. Sobre a sua oferta, gostaria
                                    muito de aceitar, mas eu não
                                    consegui convencer nenhum colega que
                                    assumiu meus clientes a colocar em
                                    produção, para um teste real. Em
                                    laboratório não acredito que tenha
                                    muita serventia, além disse estou
                                    atarefado com 5 equipamentos de 3
                                    fabricantes. Se mesmo assim achar
                                    interessante, vamos lá.</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2.
                                    Vamos definir &quot;gambiarra&quot;: </span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2.1.
                                    Segundo a Wikipédia: </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">(Subst.
                                    Fem.) No Brasil, o significado
                                    predominante seria &quot;improvisação&quot;.
                                    ... O termo &quot;gambiarra&quot; costuma ser
                                    usado também como adjetivo,
                                    significando &quot;precário&quot;, &quot;feio&quot;,
                                    &quot;tosco&quot;, &quot;mal acabado&quot;. </span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2.2.
                                    Segundo o Michaelis: Ribalta de
                                    luzes na parte anterior e superior
                                    dos palcos. 2 Serviço elétrico
                                    malfeito, especialmente com a
                                    finalidade de obter energia elétrica
                                    de maneira ilegal.</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2.3.
                                    Segundo o Marcio: Improvisação,
                                    utilização de equipamentos fora da
                                    especificação ou proposito original,
                                    produto sem
                                    estabilidade/segurança/garantia.</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3.
                                    Por favor, não sei o que é pior,
                                    GoIP e mais meia dúzia de
                                    tranqueiras chinesas. Isso não
                                    é parâmetro para comparação. A
                                    concepção inicial do GoIP é
                                    puramente para explorar o mercado de
                                    SMS Pirata, nada mais. Ah, ele é uma
                                    gambiarra industrializada ... rsrsrs</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">4.
                                    Na comparação de processo industrial
                                    X artesanal, basicamente é isso. Mas
                                    suprimiram alguns fatores e
                                    informações muito importantes:
                                    qualidade dos componentes
                                    utilizados, projeto e equipe de
                                    engenheiros dedicados ao
                                    desenvolvimento do produto, e
                                    principalmente continuidade e
                                    padronização do hardware. O oposto
                                    do chan_dongle, que com outro colega
                                    mesmo disse, usa-se o pen-modem
                                    disponível!</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">5.
                                    Sim, tudo é modem GSM, mas cada um
                                    foi projetado para um tipo de uso,
                                    para um perfil. Da mesma forma que
                                    existem capacitores melhores e
                                    piores, existem modens GSM melhores
                                    e piores. No mundo existem poucos
                                    fabricantes realmente de modem GSM,
                                    dá pra contar nos dedos, e a maioria
                                    deles tem os de primeira linha, de
                                    segunda linha e de terceira linha,
                                    além dos perfis de uso. Ai vai do
                                    fabricante do gateway usar o
                                    adequado. Assim é com todas as
                                    outras partes.</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">6.
                                    Sim, tem um monte de fabricantes que
                                    usam tudo pronto e só colocam a
                                    marca, e são
                                    facilmente identificáveis. Eu não
                                    uso esse tipo de produto. </span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">7.
                                    Fazendo uma analogia a qualidade dos
                                    componentes, placas, modens e etc.
                                    Sabe aquele pneu de carro 175x70R14?
                                    Pois é, do mesmo fabricante com as
                                    mesmas medidas você encontra de
                                    diferentes valores, e sabe porque?
                                    Cada um foi feito para um perfil de
                                    uso, vai de você colocar o adequado
                                    no seu carro para o seu uso. Se você
                                    colocar o inadequado ele pode durar
                                    menos, não conseguir frear
                                    corretamente, não ter a estabilidade
                                    necessária e por ai vai, mas vai
                                    rodar.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">8.
                                    Com certeza absoluta todos,
                                    sem exceção, os pen-modens usados
                                    pelo chan_dongle usam modens GSM
                                    baratos, para perfil de uso
                                    doméstico onde não há exigência de
                                    qualidade, ou mesmo se ele parar, no
                                    máximo vai aborrecer o usuário, não
                                    vai causar prejuízos financeiros. E
                                    com mais certeza ainda não foi
                                    projetado para alta carga e operação
                                    continua. Ao contrário dos gateways,
                                    que pelo menos deveriam usar os de
                                    primeira linha com perfil voltado a
                                    alta carga e operação continua, os
                                    chamados industriais. Sabemos que
                                    muitos não o fazem, ai vai de você
                                    conhecer o equipamento.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">9.
                                    Sempre, desde o começo, usei
                                    equipamentos profissionais. Volto a
                                    repetir, o cliente que precisa de 16
                                    canais GSM e não tem 12-13 mil pra
                                    pagar em um gateway profissional,
                                    tem algo errado!</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">10.
                                    Até concordo que as margens de lucro
                                    dos fabricantes muitas vezes são
                                    abusivas. Um modem GSM de primeira
                                    linha em escala não custa mais de
                                    USD$40,00. Então porque um módulo
                                    custa USD$350,00? Parte desse valor
                                    é lucro, outra parte é custo de
                                    pesquisa, desenvolvimento e
                                    produção, mas um fatia bem grande é
                                    para o chamado &quot;Seguro de
                                    Responsabilidade Civil&quot;. Trocando
                                    em miúdos e a reserva que a empresa
                                    faz para caso cause prejuízos para
                                    um cliente e seja condenada
                                    judicialmente a ressarci-lo. Algumas
                                    contratam esse seguro, outras
                                    simplesmente embutem isso como custo
                                    de produção.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Certa
                                    vez surgiu a oportunidade de entrar
                                    diretamente em um cliente de grande
                                    porte, o primeiro. Ele usava Avaya
                                    com 600 PAs e precisava
                                    ampliar/modernizar. Me apresentaram
                                    ao diretor de tecnologia e depois de
                                    muito telefone e e-mail ele resolveu
                                    me dar uma chance, marcou uma
                                    reunião para eu apresentar o
                                    projeto. A única coisa que ele
                                    disse: &quot;se exitar ou gaguejar uma
                                    vez que seja, está fora.&quot; Cheguei na
                                    reunião com um projeto/proposta da
                                    solução completa por 1/8 do preço da
                                    Avaya. Me colocaram em uma sala de
                                    reuniões sentado sozinho em um lado
                                    da mesa, em uma cabeceira estava o
                                    diretor de tecnologia e na outra o
                                    vice-presidente, do outro lado da
                                    mesa uns 10 técnicos/engenheiros.
                                    Passei por uma sabatina de 4 horas,
                                    estava quase tendo um colapso, até
                                    então o vice-presidente, um senhor
                                    de uns 50-60 anos, não tinha dado
                                    uma única palavra, fica só reclinado
                                    na cadeira escutando. Depois de 4
                                    horas aproximadamente ele encostou
                                    na mesa, interrompeu e disse: &quot;já vi
                                    que tecnicamente ninguém nessa sala
                                    vai conseguir te contestar, nem
                                    mesmo aquele ali da ponta que é o
                                    engenheiro da Avaya responsável pelo
                                    projeto. Até agora você não
                                    gaguejou, não ficou em dúvida ou
                                    deixou de responder qualquer
                                    questão. Não estou propenso a fechar
                                    com a Avaya porque acho que a sua
                                    solução não funcione, pelo
                                    contrário, ou porque a deles seja
                                    melhor, ou porque é mais cara ou
                                    porque eles são mais bonitos. Se eu
                                    contratar a Avaya e tiver algum
                                    problema eu irei processa-la e sei
                                    que ela terá capital para arcar com
                                    as prováveis indenizações. E se eu
                                    contratar a sua, quem irei
                                    processar? Pelo que entendi há pelo
                                    menos quatro fornecedores
                                    envolvidos. Irei processar você, o
                                    responsável pela solução! Agora me
                                    diga, você tem capital para suportar
                                    um processos desses? Tem ideia de
                                    quanto custa o minuto parado de
                                    nossa operação? Acho que não!&quot;</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Fiquei
                                    parado, não sabia o que responder.
                                    Após uns 30 segundos de pausa que
                                    parece que duraram 30 minutos, ele
                                    continuou: &quot;Me apresente uma apólice
                                    de responsabilidade civil de meio
                                    milhão por 36 meses, em 72 horas, e
                                    o projeto é seu.&quot;. Eu só respondi:
                                    &quot;Fechado!&quot;, sem ter a menor ideia de
                                    quanto custava isso. Ele levantou e
                                    saiu da sala junto com a maioria. O
                                    engenheiro da Avaya saiu rindo, pois
                                    provavelmente sabia o custo disso. O
                                    diretor de tecnologia só me disse:
                                    &quot;Boa sorte, você vai precisar!&quot;</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Sai
                                    de lá já correndo atrás, quando
                                    recebi os primeiros orçamentos quase
                                    infartei. Faltando umas 3 horas para
                                    o prazo esgotar consegui fechar com
                                    uma seguradora que já enviou a
                                    apólice direto pra eles e eu fechei
                                    o contrato. Hoje eles são o meu
                                    único cliente direto ainda, mas só
                                    presto consultoria, não entra um
                                    parafuso lá sem meu aval.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Sabe
                                    quanto me custou o seguro? Quase 2x
                                    o meu lucro no projeto! Pois é, tive
                                    um enorme prejuízo. E o que eu mais
                                    queria eu não pude fazer, usa-los
                                    como vitrine. Mandei o meu contrato
                                    de meras 5 páginas, uma semana
                                    depois o jurídico deles me devolveu
                                    com quase 50 páginas e com um
                                    recadinho: &quot;Nem pense em querer
                                    tirar ou colocar algo!&quot;. Dessas 50
                                    páginas, umas 5 eram dedicadas ao
                                    maldito NDA, mais umas 5
                                    as consequências de quebra-lo! Ou
                                    seja, nunca pude citar o nome deles
                                    ou qualquer aspecto técnico da
                                    solução, exceto que usam &quot;Asterisk&quot;
                                    e tem mais de 1.500 PAs ativas,
                                    hoje. Eles me trouxeram muitos
                                    outros clientes, mas por iniciativa
                                    deles.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Ou
                                    seja, o &quot;quanto custa&quot;  a solução é
                                    um dos fatores de menor peso para o
                                    médio e grande porte, e até menos
                                    para o pequeno, que é administrado e
                                    não empurrado com a barriga.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Nunca
                                    passei a mão em cabeça de fabricante
                                    ou fornecedor, e sempre fui muito
                                    criterioso nas homologações para
                                    todos os clientes. E como a Khomp
                                    foi citada nos seus &quot;primórdios&quot; ...
                                    rsrsrs</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Conhecia
                                    a Khomp de nome, mais nunca tinha
                                    usado. Um dia resolvi comprar um EBS
                                    GSM (lançamento) para uma parceria.
                                    Logo de cara, nos primeiros testes,
                                    me estranhei com o channel. Cheguei
                                    a pensar em devolver. Em uma conf
                                    com o pessoal do desenvolvimento,
                                    nos estranhamos mais ainda, pois
                                    disse que o channel não era estável,
                                    era um beta ou algo do tipo.
                                    Foram ríspidos comigo e eu com eles.
                                    Implementaram alguns requisitos e
                                    fiquei com o equipamento.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Na
                                    sequencia tive a infeliz ideia de
                                    envia-lo para esse cliente ai de
                                    cima. O tal seguro quase me fez
                                    falta. De vários problemas, na
                                    última vez o famigerado channel
                                    derrubou parte da operação, o
                                    estrago só não maior pela forma como
                                    o ambiente foi implementado e opera.
                                    Umas 300 PAs ficaram indisponíveis
                                    por exatos 72 segundos e caiu mais
                                    umas 100 ligações. Foi o suficiente
                                    pra eu receber uma ligação do
                                    vice-presidente perguntando se eu
                                    ainda tinha o seguro, pois se o
                                    problema se repetisse novamente eu
                                    precisaria dele, e que só não iria
                                    precisar agora em homenagem aos
                                    últimos 5 anos de serviços
                                    irretocáveis. </span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Uns
                                    3 dias depois recebi o equipamento
                                    de volta por sedex a cobrar com um
                                    bilhete do diretor de tecnologia:
                                    &quot;Em consideração a nossa amizade e
                                    aos últimos 5 anos, nunca mais me
                                    mande um produto desse fabricante.
                                    Nem arruela!&quot;</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Ha
                                    alguns meses estou testando pelo
                                    menos uma dezena de updates do
                                    channel e estou com uma versão nova
                                    do EBS. Chegamos a passar 2 semanas
                                    rodando testes com
                                    pacotes específicos do channel para
                                    debug, tentando identificar os bugs
                                    e corrigi-los.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Não
                                    falei mais com a pessoa que achou
                                    ruim quando disse que o channel não
                                    era estável, e hoje tenho certeza
                                    que não era. Mas depois de uma
                                    conversa produtiva com um dos
                                    diretores, as coisas estão fluindo
                                    mais, estamos interagindo mais e
                                    consequentemente os problemas vem
                                    sendo identificados e corrigidos.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Ainda
                                    tem muito coisa a ser feita, e
                                    sinceramente ainda não tenho
                                    segurança em mandar um produto deles
                                    para um ambiente de grande porte.
                                    Eles tem vários outros produtos
                                    impares no mercado, mas hoje tenho
                                    um pé atrás. Acho que falta um
                                    programa de &quot;beta-testers&quot; e mais
                                    tempo em desenvolvimento. Pelo menos
                                    componentes de qualidade eles usam,
                                    e não dá pra comparar com gambiarras
                                    ou mesmo GoIP da vida.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Mas
                                    eles tem estrutura para isso e podem
                                    melhorar! Tem gente dedicada a isso,
                                    recebendo salário para isso! Falta
                                    abrir a cabeça um pouco. Tem pessoas
                                    excelentes lá, o profissional que
                                    tenho contato direito é muito bom.
                                    Apesar do começo ruim, é um dos
                                    fornecedores que estou apostando
                                    para um projeto que está no formo.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">É
                                    o chan_dongle e seus pen-modens?</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">
                                   </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Se
                                    eu tivesse sido processado pelo
                                    cliente, teria levando a Khomp
                                    junto. E se fosse o chan_dongle com
                                    os modens Huawei? Ia coloca a Huawei
                                    no meio? Ou o Makhutov e o Vagin? A
                                    Huawei no mínimo iria rir e
                                    simplesmente contra-argumentar que o
                                    produto não é para isso, e não é
                                    mesmo. No máximo eles iriam me
                                    processar por ter debloqueado o uso
                                    de voz, alegando patentes e segredos
                                    industriais.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Alguns
                                    vão dizer que deve ter uns 5
                                    callcenters desse porte no país! Eu
                                    vou repetir que o cliente que quer
                                    usar 16 canais GSM e não tem 12-13
                                    mil para comprar um equipamento
                                    profissional tem que fechar as
                                    portas! Porque com certeza não tem
                                    pra isso, mas tem pra trocar de
                                    carro, reformar a casa, viajar e
                                    etc.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Brasileiro
                                    tem que parar com esse negócio de
                                    &quot;jeitinho&quot;.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Usar
                                    chan_dongle + pen-modens em casa ou
                                    no escritório para uma, duas linhas
                                    no máximo, onde se o sistema tiver
                                    que ser reiniciado ou ficar fora por
                                    10-20 minutos não vai afetar nada,
                                    tudo bem. Acho que é inclusive esse
                                    o objetivo do chan_dongle.</span></p>
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                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Agora,
                                    como está sendo colocado e feito
                                    propaganda, de colocar 10-20
                                    pen-modens pendurados em um hub USB
                                    para aguentar a carga de um
                                    callcenter, me poupe, é demais pra
                                    mim. Isso pra mim ultrapassa o
                                    conceito de gambiarra.</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Por
                                    último, o projeto está praticamente
                                    abandonado (um ano se atualizações)
                                    e tem vários issues pendentes. Até
                                    andei analisando o source e pensei
                                    em mexer, mas da forma que as coisa
                                    andam larguei de mão. Amanha ou
                                    depois vou ser processado por culpa
                                    de um &quot;sem noção&quot;. Sem contar que
                                    acho que o negócio está sendo
                                    desvirtuado a ponto de acabar
                                    prejudicando fabricantes sérios e
                                    profissionais, e não vou compactuar
                                    com isso.</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">UFÁ,
                                    consegui terminar de redigir, após
                                    umas 7 horas ... kkkkkkkk</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
                                </p>
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                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">
                                      <br>
                                      [...]&#39;s<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Marcio</p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">========================================</span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">###########
                                            Campanha Ajude o Marcio!
                                            ###########</span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href="http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/</span></a></span></p>

                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href="http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793</span></a></span></p>

                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">========================================</span></p>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
                                   </p>
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                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Em 30 de agosto
                                    de 2013 10:12, Asterisk - Junior
                                    Polegato &lt;<a href="mailto:asterisk@juniorpolegato.com.br" target="_blank">asterisk@juniorpolegato.com.br</a>&gt;
                                    escreveu:</p>
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                              </div>
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                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Olá!<br>
                                      <br>
                                              Outro fator importante, em
                                      se falando de valores, estão
                                      esquecendo de somar impostos INSS,
                                      FGTS, Férias, 13º, sindicato,
                                      entre outros benefícios dos
                                      funcionários, ISS, ICMS, IPI, ST,
                                      PIS, COFINS, IRPJ, contabilidade
                                      entre outros para a Empresa, além
                                      do custo operacional como
                                      telefone, energia elétrica,
                                      aluguel, manutenção, etc. Além
                                      disso teria o imposto de
                                      importação e companhia na
                                      importação do Alix ou outro.<br>
                                      <br>
                                              Não esquecendo que é uma
                                      empresa e visa lucro, não dá então
                                      para comparar valores chan_dongle
                                      com produtos comerciais.<br>
                                      <br>
                                              Agora qualidade técnica,
                                      fiquei impressionando, coloquei um
                                      modem E156B no meu note de
                                      desenvolvimento, desbloqueei a voz
                                      e saí usando. Somente tive que
                                      alterar o código para suportar
                                      PDU/GSM e USSD nesse modelo e
                                      pronto, funciona tudo! E funciona
                                      muito bem!<br>
                                      <br>
                                              Se alguém abrir uma
                                      empresa, uma caixa bonita
                                      (marketing), suporte 24h e
                                      garantia, e reduzir o lucro para o
                                      valor ficar abaixo do mercado, vai
                                      fazer dinheiro com certeza!<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      []&#39;s<br>
                                               Junior Polegato<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      Em <a href="tel:30-08-2013" target="_blank">30-08-2013</a>
                                      10:32, Alexandre Cavalcante
                                      Alencar escreveu: </p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Pessoal, </p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">NOTA: Não
                                          descrevo todas as etapas do
                                          processo, apenas de forma bem
                                          genérica e de alto nível ao
                                          interesse da discussão. As
                                          especificidades competem
                                          exclusivamente a aqueles que
                                          empreenderão na fabricação em
                                          escala de produtos.</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Aos
                                          profissionais e amadores:</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Como um
                                          gateway profissional é feito:</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Pega-se N
                                          módulos GSM, uma interface de
                                          controle, uma fonte e um
                                          gabinete, monta-se tudo de
                                          forma que o conjunto funcione
                                          adequadamente ao propósito
                                          estabelecido e
                                          comercializa-se. Tudo isso
                                          partiu de um protótipo, com
                                          módulos soltos, fios da fonte
                                          de alimentação conectados de
                                          forma simples, etc...</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Como um
                                          gateway amador é feito:</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Pega-se N
                                          módulos GSM (no formato de um
                                          modem 3G, que nada mais é que
                                          um módulo GSM num gabinete de
                                          propósito definido), uma
                                          interface (hub usb/servidor),
                                          uma fonte de alimentação (hub
                                          usb), monta-se da forma mais
                                          adequada ao ambiente onde será
                                          instalado e comercializa-se.</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Qual a
                                          diferença?</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">No dito
                                          profissional, existe um
                                          processo de fabricação em
                                          escala, depois que o protótipo
                                          passou por sua fase de
                                          construção, que insere um
                                          gabinete bonito, pintado,
                                          padronizado, com componentes
                                          padronizados (módulos gsm,
                                          fonte, gabinete, interface de
                                          controle, etc).</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">No dito
                                          amador, existe um processo
                                          artesanal, construindo cada
                                          instalação à sua própria
                                          forma, com pouca ou nenhuma
                                          padronização (devido à
                                          característica artesanal), com
                                          módulos diversos (aquele modem
                                          que está mais
                                          acessível/disponível ou cujas
                                          experiências passadas foram
                                          positivas), interfaces
                                          (hubs/distro/asterisk)
                                          diversas, fontes (hubs)
                                          diversas e processos de
                                          montagem diversos.</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Basicamente,
                                          o artesanal deixará de ser
                                          chamado assim quando começar
                                          sua produção em escala, com
                                          componentes padronizados, com
                                          uma marca e proprietária que
                                          possa suportá-los.</p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
                                      </p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Alexandre
                                          Alencar<br>
                                          Twitter @alexandreitpro</p>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://blog.alexandrealencar.net/" target="_blank">http://blog.alexandrealencar.net/</a><br>
                                            <a href="http://www.alexandrealencar.net/" target="_blank">http://www.alexandrealencar.net/</a></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.alexandrealencar.com" target="_blank">http://www.alexandrealencar.com</a></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.servicosdeti.com.br/" target="_blank">http://www.servicosdeti.com.br/</a></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">COBIT,
                                            ITIL, CSM, LPI, MCP-I</p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">2013/8/30
                                          Sylvio Jollenbeck &lt;<a href="mailto:sylvio.jollenbeck@gmail.com" target="_blank">sylvio.jollenbeck@gmail.com</a>&gt;</p>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Hudson, </p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                               Concordo com a sua
                                              opinião. um produto só se
                                              torna estável, maduro e
                                              seguro quando alguem,
                                              mesmo que apenas Um,
                                              acredite na ideia. Um
                                              solução com 16 dongle
                                              custa o preço de 1 placa
                                              gsm com 4 canais no
                                              brasil. Eu acredito que se
                                              juntos, não na visão de
                                              usuários, mas na visão de
                                              desenvolvedores, podemos
                                              usar o dongle sem qualquer
                                              problema, trocar
                                              experiencias. etc.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Abs,</p>
                                          </div>
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                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">
                                              Em 30 de agosto de 2013
                                              10:02, Hudson Cardoso &lt;<a href="mailto:hudsoncardoso@hotmail.com" target="_blank">hudsoncardoso@hotmail.com</a>&gt;
                                              escreveu: </p>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">   Não
                                                          gosto muito de
                                                          participar  de
                                                          debates
                                                          &quot;Flames&quot;,
                                                          mas....</span>
                                                      </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">   Há muito
                                                          tempo atrás,
                                                          uns 12 anos eu
                                                          acho, conheci
                                                          uma empresa
                                                          pequena, tipo
                                                          fundo de
                                                          garagem,</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">um monte de
                                                          tralha
                                                          espalhada
                                                          pelas mesas,
                                                          dois malucos
                                                          soldando
                                                          &quot;pecinhas&quot;, e
                                                          um magrelo
                                                          alto tentando</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">me empurrar
                                                          uma solução
                                                          que seria o
                                                          futuro da
                                                          Telecom, assim
                                                          nascia a KOMP,</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> 
                                                           Nunca usei
                                                          uma Komp na
                                                          minha vida por
                                                          causa de
                                                          imagem que
                                                          tive, so
                                                          Digivoice, ate
                                                          que no mes
                                                          passado,</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">fui
                                                          convidado a
                                                          conhecer os
                                                          produtos dela.</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">   Mudei
                                                          completamente
                                                          minha idéia,
                                                          placas muto
                                                          bem
                                                          feitas(antes
                                                          eram muito
                                                          grandes),
                                                          ambiente
                                                          limpo,
                                                          organizado,</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ao nível de
                                                          Digium.</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">   Agora me
                                                          pergunto, eles
                                                          não começaram
                                                          assim ? como
                                                          um dongle da
                                                          vida?</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">   A
                                                          diferença
                                                          entre fornecer
                                                          uma gambiarra
                                                          e um produto
                                                          sólido, é se
                                                          ele atende o
                                                          cliente, com
                                                          qualidade e
                                                          preparo</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">técnico, já
                                                          fiz isso
                                                          muitas vezes,
                                                          pra solucionar
                                                          o problema do
                                                          cliente, mas
                                                          deixava ele
                                                          bem ciente
                                                          disso, se o</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">cara tem
                                                          consciência de
                                                          que tá
                                                          comprado algo
                                                          fundo de
                                                          quintal, não
                                                          vejo problema,
                                                          mas usar essa
                                                          artimanha</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">em uma
                                                          venda
                                                          profissional,
                                                          é no mínimo
                                                          desonesto,
                                                          nefasto e
                                                          desleal.</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> 
                                                           Vou até
                                                          comprar um pra
                                                          fazer teste
                                                          aqui em casa,
                                                          como
                                                          conhecimento,
                                                          qual deles vai
                                                          ser, ou </span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">quanto
                                                          tempo esse
                                                          trem vai
                                                          durar? não
                                                          sei, mas o
                                                          cliente tem
                                                          que ciência
                                                          completa do
                                                          que se trata.</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> 
                                                           Esse é meu
                                                          ponto de
                                                          vista.</span></p>
                                                        <pre style="line-height:12.75pt"><span style="color:#2a2a2a">Hudson  <a href="tel:%28048%29%208413-7000" target="_blank">(048) 8413-7000</a> Para quem nao cre, nenhuma prova converte,Para aquele que cre, nenhuma prova precisa. </span></pre>

                                                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center">
                                                          <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          Date: Fri, 30
                                                          Aug 2013
                                                          09:38:17 -0300<br>
                                                          From: <a href="mailto:jersonjunior@bsd.com.br" target="_blank">jersonjunior@bsd.com.br</a>
                                                          </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
                                                          <br>
                                                          To: <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                                                          Subject: Re:
                                                          [AsteriskBrasil]
                                                          Gatway com
                                                          chan_dongle</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          Chan_dongle
                                                          arrebenta!!</p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Em
                                                          30 de agosto
                                                          de 2013 00:22,
                                                          Miqueias
                                                          Queiroz Decco
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:miqueiasdecco@hotmail.com" target="_blank">miqueiasdecco@hotmail.com</a>&gt;
                                                          escreveu:</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">É
                                                          certo que se
                                                          não fossem
                                                          esses testes,
                                                          estaríamos
                                                          ainda no mundo
                                                          do PABX e o
                                                          asterisk
                                                          jamais sairia
                                                          do papel. </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Miqueias Decco</p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center">
                                                          <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
                                                          Date: Thu, 29
                                                          Aug 2013
                                                          19:22:44 -0300<br>
                                                          From: <a href="mailto:otavioasterisk@gmail.com" target="_blank">otavioasterisk@gmail.com</a><br>
                                                          To: <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                                                          Subject: Re:
                                                          [AsteriskBrasil]
                                                          Gatway com
                                                          chan_dongle</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Boa
                                                          noite lista.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Márcio,
                                                          sou um feliz
                                                          cliente do
                                                          Giovanni e de
                                                          seus gateways.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Antes
                                                          utilizava
                                                          gateways da
                                                          Goip q, de um
                                                          dia pro outro,
                                                          simplesmente
                                                          pararam de
                                                          funcionar e me
                                                          deixaram na
                                                          mão.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Estou
                                                          utilizando um
                                                          Alix + 4
                                                          modens (não me
                                                          lembro o
                                                          modelo) com
                                                          teste de
                                                          portabilidade
                                                          do Udson
                                                          (brfone
                                                          telecom) e
                                                          recomendo
                                                          100%.
                                                          Qualidade de
                                                          ligações 100%,
                                                          nunca tive
                                                          travamentos ou
                                                          queda nas
                                                          ligações e
                                                          esse cenário
                                                          já está há 30
                                                          dias em
                                                          produção e
                                                          nesse período,
                                                          nenhum
                                                          problema.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Já
                                                          adquiri o
                                                          segundo
                                                          gateway, agora
                                                          com 8 modens
                                                          (e303) q está
                                                          previsto para
                                                          ser implantado
                                                          num cliente em
                                                          no máximo 15
                                                          dias, e não
                                                          tenho o menor
                                                          receio, tanto
                                                          pela
                                                          qualidade,
                                                          quanto pela
                                                          suporte q
                                                          recebo da
                                                          dupla Giovanni
                                                          e Udson.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">E
                                                          fique
                                                          tranquilo pois
                                                          não tenho
                                                          interesse
                                                          nenhum em
                                                          divulgar pois
                                                          não sou
                                                          patrocinado
                                                          pelo Giovanni
                                                          muito menos
                                                          pelo Udson.
                                                          Simplesmente
                                                          acho que temos
                                                          q divulgar o q
                                                          é bom.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Antes
                                                          de adquirir o
                                                          gateway do
                                                          Giovanni, eu
                                                          montei um com
                                                          um server
                                                          rodando debian
                                                          + modem porém
                                                          tive alguns
                                                          pouquissimos
                                                          problemas com
                                                          travamento,
                                                          porém não
                                                          tendo tempo
                                                          para afinar a
                                                          configuração,
                                                          resolvi
                                                          comprar.... E
                                                          mesmo com
                                                          esses
                                                          problemas, a
                                                          qualidade da
                                                          ligação era
                                                          perfeita e não
                                                          tinha
                                                          quedas...</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Abraços
                                                          a todos...</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Em
                                                          29 de agosto
                                                          de 2013 17:48,
                                                          Giovanni &lt;<a href="mailto:giovbs@gmail.com" target="_blank">giovbs@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                                          escreveu:</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Marcio,
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">não
                                                          concordo
                                                          100%...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Foi eu que
                                                          montei este
                                                          gateway (<a href="http://goo.gl/sOAtB" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm;text-decoration:none">goo.gl/sOAtB</span></a>) e
                                                          este é só um
                                                          teste em
                                                          ambiente de
                                                          produção (e
                                                          minha
                                                          continuação do
                                                          laboratório
                                                          com Dongle).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          QUERO
                                                          EVIDENCIAR que
                                                          o cliente não
                                                          pagou e não
                                                          está pagando
                                                          nem um
                                                          centavos por
                                                          isso e não
                                                          vejo motivo
                                                          por o
                                                          empregados de
                                                          esta empresa
                                                          ser mentirosos
                                                          relatando esta
                                                          &#39;sensação&#39;
                                                          positiva que
                                                          as ligações
                                                          som melhores
                                                          dos outros
                                                          gateways que
                                                          utilizam. EU
                                                          VI
                                                          PESSOALMENTE:
                                                          os modem E303
                                                          neste caso tem
                                                          melhor
                                                          recepção de
                                                          sinal (RSSI)
                                                          dos Portech
                                                          pois os
                                                          Portech,
                                                          colocados na
                                                          mesma sala,
                                                          nem consegue
                                                          &#39;ver&#39; o sinal
                                                          da torre. Por
                                                          receber o
                                                          sinal este 12
                                                          portech MV378
                                                          (96 canais
                                                          GSM) som
                                                          montados perto
                                                          uma janela no
                                                          andar mais
                                                          alto (segundo
                                                          andar) por
                                                          assim poder
                                                          colocar as
                                                          antenas fora
                                                          da janela...
                                                          mas Modem E303
                                                          nesta sala
                                                          (andar 0) toda
                                                          fechada e sem
                                                          janelas cheia
                                                          de Rack, UPS,
                                                          torres, etc
                                                          etc tem RSSI
                                                          entre 8 e 18
                                                          conseguindo
                                                          até então
                                                          passar mais de
                                                          60.000
                                                          ligações....</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Estou
                                                          muito
                                                          cuidadoso nas
                                                          minha
                                                          declarações e
                                                          NUNCA VENDI
                                                          UMA gambiarras
                                                          em toda minha
                                                          vida...cliente
                                                          tem que ser
                                                          CIENTE de todo
                                                          e FELIZ ou nao
                                                          é mim cliente
                                                          pois não
                                                          vendo! EU não
                                                          gosto de
                                                          clientes
                                                          insatisfeitos
                                                          me cobrando!
                                                          Quem me
                                                          conhece sabe
                                                          de isso.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Vendei
                                                          algumas
                                                          soluções e
                                                          ajudei muita
                                                          gente da lista
                                                          em colocar em
                                                          teste ou
                                                          produção
                                                          chan_dongle e
                                                          afins!<br>
                                                          E som todos
                                                          satisfeitos e
                                                          CIENTES das
                                                          coisas. tenho
                                                          outros
                                                          clientes
                                                          relatando
                                                          qualidade é
                                                          melhor de
                                                          Outros...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          CLARO que eu
                                                          não vou
                                                          declarar que
                                                          seja a melhor
                                                          solução
                                                          gateway mas
                                                          garanto que
                                                          funfa bem se
                                                          lembramos de
                                                          utilizar os
                                                          devidos
                                                          coitados! </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          Marcio convido
                                                          o Sr. a montar
                                                          seu ambiente
                                                          de teste... A
                                                          qualidade é a
                                                          mesma de uma
                                                          ligação GSM
                                                          entre
                                                          celulares/smartphones
                                                          e a qualidade
                                                          não depende só
                                                          do gateway
                                                          mas também da
                                                          rede das
                                                          Operadoras e
                                                          TODOS sabemos
                                                          que não é boa
                                                          &quot;assim&quot;...
                                                          Assim se a
                                                          rede da
                                                          operadora é
                                                          RUIM qualquer
                                                          gateway GSM
                                                          irá ser ruim
                                                          incluindo os
                                                          TOP DE LINHA.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">E
                                                          acho que seria
                                                          interessante
                                                          que tivesse
                                                          alguém
                                                          tentando
                                                          melhorar este
                                                          modulo (código
                                                          fonte)
                                                          cha_dongle e
                                                          não só
                                                          criticar...Assim,
                                                          gostaria de
                                                          lhe enviar uma
                                                          Alix, um modem
                                                          E160 e o
                                                          sistema
                                                          instalado...
                                                          como presente
                                                          de
                                                          laboratório! Não
                                                          me veja a mau
                                                          é material que
                                                          tenho em mim
                                                          laboratório
                                                          (que é usado)
                                                          mas lhe doo de
                                                          vontade por
                                                          você testar e
                                                          depois me
                                                          dizer se é
                                                          gambiarra!
                                                          Pois respeito
                                                          sua pessoa e
                                                          gostaria você
                                                          testasse antes
                                                          de falar assim
                                                          mau.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Caso
                                                          aceite aguardo
                                                          seu endereço
                                                          em PVT por
                                                          encomendar.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          Abraço</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Giovanni</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">skype:
                                                          giovbs</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Em
                                                          29 de agosto
                                                          de 2013 16:08,
                                                          Marcio -
                                                          Google &lt;<a href="mailto:marciorp@gmail.com" target="_blank">marciorp@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                                          escreveu: </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Olha, na
                                                          boa mesmo!
                                                          Respeito quem
                                                          queira usar
                                                          gambiarras, é
                                                          escolha. Não
                                                          concordo com
                                                          isso e não
                                                          apoio.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Agora dizer
                                                          que uma
                                                          gambiarra
                                                          dessas
                                                          funciona
                                                          melhor que
                                                          equipamento
                                                          profissionais
                                                          força a barra,
                                                          chega beirar o
                                                          ridículo.
                                                          Chega ser
                                                          falta de
                                                          respeito com
                                                          os colegas
                                                          sérios aqui da
                                                          lista!</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">É a mesma
                                                          coisa que
                                                          dizer que
                                                          pegando um
                                                          teco-teco e
                                                          pendurando
                                                          umas
                                                          metralhadoras
                                                          nele ele vai
                                                          fazer o
                                                          serviço melhor
                                                          que um F-16.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Acho que
                                                          cada um tem
                                                          que vender o
                                                          seu peixe, mas
                                                          um pouco de
                                                          sensatez não
                                                          custa nada!</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Assim como
                                                          eu, há outros
                                                          na lista que
                                                          trabalham com
                                                          Asterisk/Callcenter/VoIP
                                                          há muitos anos
                                                          e em sistemas
                                                          de grande
                                                          porte. Nós
                                                          dizer isso é o
                                                          mesmo que nos
                                                          chamarmos de
                                                          burros,
                                                          ignorantes e
                                                          ladrões, por
                                                          termos feitos
                                                          nossos
                                                          clientes
                                                          gastarem
                                                          centenas de
                                                          dezenas de
                                                          reais eu
                                                          equipamentos
                                                          profissionais
                                                          enquanto meia
                                                          dúzia de
                                                          gabiarras e
                                                          aberrações há
                                                          1/10 do valor
                                                          fariam a mesma
                                                          coisa com a
                                                          mesma
                                                          estabilidade,
                                                          segurança,
                                                          disponibilidade
                                                          e qualidade.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Porque será
                                                          que quando
                                                          recebemos
                                                          ligações de
                                                          certos TMs
                                                          Ativos o áudio
                                                          é limpo,
                                                          nítido, não há
                                                          barulho de
                                                          fundo, não há
                                                          chiado, não há
                                                          picote?
                                                          Enquanto
                                                          outras
                                                          ligações
                                                          parece que
                                                          estamos
                                                          falando com
                                                          alguém que
                                                          está em uma
                                                          boate marciana
                                                          fazendo a
                                                          chamada por um
                                                          VoIP de
                                                          Saturno?</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Pois é,
                                                          essa é a
                                                          diferença! O
                                                          primeiro usa
                                                          equipamentos
                                                          profissionais,
                                                          com qualidade
                                                          industrial, em
                                                          ambientes
                                                          projetados e
                                                          executados por
                                                          profissionais
                                                          qualificadas!
                                                          O segundo,
                                                          bom, acho que
                                                          não preciso
                                                          detalhar!</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Já que a
                                                          lista agora é
                                                          vitrine de
                                                          casos de
                                                          sucesso, vou
                                                          contar um de
                                                          insucesso.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Esses dias
                                                          me ligaram
                                                          umas 5 vezes,
                                                          sempre de
                                                          números
                                                          celulares
                                                          diferentes,
                                                          mas do mesmo
                                                          &quot;callcenter&quot;
                                                          oferecendo o
                                                          mesmo produto.
                                                          A ligação era
                                                          uma porcaria!
                                                          Depois da
                                                          última ligação
                                                          eu resolvi
                                                          retornar em um
                                                          dos números,
                                                          depois de umas
                                                          20 tentativas
                                                          consegui ser
                                                          atendido. As
                                                          outras 19 ou
                                                          caia, ou não
                                                          me escutava,
                                                          ou eu não
                                                          escutava, ou
                                                          chiava demais
                                                          ...</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Bom, depois
                                                          de um papo com
                                                          a atendente
                                                          consegui que
                                                          ela me
                                                          transferisse
                                                          para o
                                                          &quot;supervisor&quot;,
                                                          que depois de
                                                          um pequeno
                                                          papo descobri
                                                          que era dono.
                                                          Conversei com
                                                          ele uns 20
                                                          minutos e
                                                          convenci ele a
                                                          me passar o
                                                          contato do
                                                          &quot;cara&quot; que
                                                          monto a
                                                          estrutura
                                                          dele, mas
                                                          nisso já tinha
                                                          alguns
                                                          detalhes,
                                                          tipo: &quot;trava
                                                          tudo umas três
                                                          vezes por
                                                          dias&quot;, &quot;as
                                                          vezes a
                                                          ligação fica
                                                          muito ruim&quot;,
                                                          &quot;de vez em
                                                          quando tem que
                                                          instalar tudo
                                                          de novo&quot;, etc.
                                                          De outro
                                                          e-mail meu
                                                          passei uma
                                                          mensagem pro
                                                          cidadão
                                                          falando quem
                                                          tinha me
                                                          indicado e
                                                          pedindo um
                                                          orçamento, não
                                                          demorou foi
                                                          respondido.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Não sei se
                                                          fiquei com
                                                          raiva ou com
                                                          pena do
                                                          individuo. Dei
                                                          corda pra ele
                                                          e depois de
                                                          vários vai e
                                                          vem de e-mail,
                                                          ele citou até
                                                          a lista aqui
                                                          pra eu mesmo
                                                          fazer a
                                                          manutenção
                                                          tirando
                                                          dúvidas, além
                                                          de uma relação
                                                          de uns 20
                                                          clientes pra
                                                          pedir
                                                          referência.
                                                          Desses
                                                          clientes: 6 =
                                                          satisfeitos
                                                          (incluindo o
                                                          que me passou
                                                          o contato dele
                                                          e todos
                                                          confirmando os
                                                          travamentos e
                                                          etc) / 5 = com
                                                          problemas/pendências
                                                          (travamentos,
                                                          qualidade das
                                                          ligações, etc)
                                                          / 5 = Tinham
                                                          jogado a
                                                          solução no
                                                          lixo / 4 =
                                                          queriam dar
                                                          uma surra
                                                          nele.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Ah, ele
                                                          disse que eu
                                                          iria precisar
                                                          de um
                                                          computador,
                                                          que podia
                                                          compra as
                                                          peças no
                                                          Mercadolivre
                                                          pra ficar mais
                                                          barato, alguns
                                                          atas que eu
                                                          poderia
                                                          comprar na
                                                          China (pelo
                                                          eBay), e
                                                          pasmem, um
                                                          &quot;modem gsm
                                                          desses que usa
                                                          para internet
                                                          3G&quot; para cada
                                                          linha de
                                                          celular e hub
                                                          usb com porta
                                                          para a
                                                          quantidade de
                                                          modens. E que
                                                          talvez tivesse
                                                          que mandar os
                                                          modens pra ele
                                                          configurar, ou
                                                          se eu quisesse
                                                          ele me
                                                          venderia já
                                                          configurado.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Todo dia
                                                          ele me manda
                                                          um e-mail
                                                          perguntando se
                                                          vou fechar e
                                                          me dando um
                                                          &quot;descontinho&quot;
                                                          a mais na mão
                                                          de obra.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Triste viu!</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                          [...]&#39;s<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Marcio </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">========================================</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">###########
                                                          Campanha Ajude
                                                          o Marcio!
                                                          ###########</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href="http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/</span></a></span></p>

                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href="http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793</span></a></span></p>

                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">========================================</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
                                                           </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Em
                                                          29 de agosto
                                                          de 2013 13:56,
                                                          Daniel Roberto
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:daniel@oxmundi.com.br" target="_blank">daniel@oxmundi.com.br</a>&gt;
                                                          escreveu: </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Qual
                                                          marca do Hub?</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Em
                                                          29 de agosto
                                                          de 2013 14:44,
                                                          Everton
                                                          Carneiro &lt;<a href="mailto:everton@visaotecnologia.com" target="_blank">everton@visaotecnologia.com</a>&gt;
                                                          escreveu: </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">no
                                                          de 16 um hub
                                                          profissional
                                                          de 16 portas
                                                          USB.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Em
                                                          29 de agosto
                                                          de 2013 14:33,
                                                          Daniel Roberto
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:daniel@oxmundi.com.br" target="_blank">daniel@oxmundi.com.br</a>&gt;
                                                          escreveu: </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Olá
                                                          Everton, </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Qual
                                                          modelo de
                                                          régua USB para
                                                          conectar os
                                                          modens você
                                                          está
                                                          utilizando?</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Att,</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          Em 29 de
                                                          agosto de 2013
                                                          14:28, Everton
                                                          Carneiro &lt;<a href="mailto:everton@visaotecnologia.com" target="_blank">everton@visaotecnologia.com</a>&gt;
                                                          escreveu:</p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Compartinhando
                                                          experiência: </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Pessoal
                                                          estava usando
                                                          varios gatway
                                                          de 4 portas
                                                          feito com
                                                          cha_dongle e
                                                          os mesmo
                                                          funcionam
                                                          muito bem ate
                                                          o o dia de
                                                          hoje estou
                                                          muito
                                                          satisfeito com
                                                          essa solução,
                                                          mas tenho uma
                                                          melhor!...
                                                          estou com um
                                                          de 16 modens
                                                          E303
                                                          (homologado)
                                                          usando Alix,
                                                          pessoal esse é
                                                          que mim
                                                          surpreendeu
                                                          mesmo já esta
                                                          a mais de 45
                                                          dias em 1
                                                          callcenter
                                                          aqui em
                                                          Fortaleza e
                                                          esta 100%
                                                          funcional com
                                                          todas as
                                                          portas
                                                          simultânea.
                                                          muito bom
                                                          mesmo, ate o
                                                          sinal esta
                                                          melhor que
                                                          gatways de
                                                          marcas (X,Y,Z)
                                                          que tenho em
                                                          produção.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Isso
                                                          tudo é mérito
                                                          de nossa lista
                                                          e em
                                                          particular
                                                          nosso amigo
                                                          Giovanni e
                                                          Paulo muito
                                                          grato pessoal.
                                                               <span style="color:#888888"><br clear="all">
                                                          </span></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">-- </span></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#000099;background:#ffffcc">Everton Carneiro .:</span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Visão Tecnologia</span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Fortaleza-CE  <a href="tel:85-3044%208888" target="_blank">85-3044 8888</a> / 3044-8844</span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Cel: Tim         <a href="tel:85-9665%200888" target="_blank">85-9665 0888</a> </span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#5b5b5b">Preserve
                                                          o verde, antes
                                                          de imprimir
                                                          veja se
                                                          realmente é
                                                          necessário.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                          <br clear="all">
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">--
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <b><span style="color:#000099;background:#ffffcc">Everton
                                                          Carneiro .:</span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Visão Tecnologia</span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <b><span style="color:black">Fortaleza-CE 
                                                          <a href="tel:85-3044%208888" target="_blank">85-3044 8888</a> / 3044-8844</span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Cel: Tim         <a href="tel:85-9665%200888" target="_blank">85-9665 0888</a> </span></b></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#5b5b5b">Preserve
                                                          o verde, antes
                                                          de imprimir
                                                          veja se
                                                          realmente é
                                                          necessário.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                          <br clear="all">
                                                          <br>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Otávio </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;
                                                          Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP. Conhe<span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">�</span>a
                                                          em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.
                                                          _______________________________________________
                                                          ALIGERA <span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">�</span>
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7. Placas de
                                                          1E1, 2E1, 4E1
                                                          e 8E1 para PCI
                                                          ou PCI
                                                          Express.
                                                          Channel Bank <span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">�</span>
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.
                                                          _______________________________________________
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP.
                                                          Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          ALIGERA –
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7.<br>
                                                          Placas de 1E1,
                                                          2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                                          para PCI ou
                                                          PCI Express.<br>
                                                          Channel Bank –
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                          _______________________________________________
                                                          KHOMP:
                                                          completa linha
                                                          de placas
                                                          externas FXO,
                                                          FXS, GSM e E1;
                                                          Media Gateways
                                                          de 1 a 64 E1s
                                                          para SIP com
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7;
                                                          Intercomunicadores
                                                          para acesso
                                                          remoto via
                                                          rede IP. Conhe<span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">�</span>a
                                                          em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.
                                                          _______________________________________________
                                                          ALIGERA <span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">�</span>
                                                          Fabricante
                                                          nacional de
                                                          Gateways
                                                          SIP-E1 para
                                                          R2, ISDN e
                                                          SS7. Placas de
                                                          1E1, 2E1, 4E1
                                                          e 8E1 para PCI
                                                          ou PCI
                                                          Express.
                                                          Channel Bank <span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">�</span>
                                                          Appliance
                                                          Asterisk -
                                                          Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.
                                                          _______________________________________________
                                                          Para remover
                                                          seu email
                                                          desta lista,
                                                          basta enviar
                                                          um email em
                                                          branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                  KHOMP: completa linha
                                                  de placas externas
                                                  FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                                  Media Gateways de 1 a
                                                  64 E1s para SIP com
                                                  R2, ISDN e SS7;</p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores
                                                  para acesso remoto via
                                                  rede IP. Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                  ALIGERA – Fabricante
                                                  nacional de Gateways
                                                  SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e
                                                  SS7.<br>
                                                  Placas de 1E1, 2E1,
                                                  4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou
                                                  PCI Express.<br>
                                                  Channel Bank –
                                                  Appliance Asterisk -
                                                  Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                  Para remover seu email
                                                  desta lista, basta
                                                  enviar um email em
                                                  branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                              </div>
                                            </blockquote>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"><br>
                                          <br clear="all">
                                        </span></p>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"> </span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">
                                        <span style="color:#888888">-- <br>
                                        </span><span>Sylvio Jollenbeck<br>
                                        </span><span><a href="http://www.hosannatecnologia.com.br/" target="_blank">www.hosannatecnologia.com.br</a></span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                        KHOMP: completa linha de placas
                                        externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                        Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s
                                        para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;</p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores
                                        para acesso remoto via rede IP.
                                        Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                        ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de
                                        Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e
                                        SS7.<br>
                                        Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                        para PCI ou PCI Express.<br>
                                        Channel Bank – Appliance
                                        Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                        Para remover seu email desta
                                        lista, basta enviar um email em
                                        branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                </div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                <pre>_______________________________________________</pre>
                                <div>
                                  <pre> </pre>
                                  <pre>KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;</pre>
                                  <pre>Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;</pre>
                                </div>
                                <pre>Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.</pre>
                                <div>
                                  <pre>_______________________________________________</pre>
                                  <pre>ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.</pre>
                                  <pre>Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.</pre>
                                  <pre>Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.</pre>
                                  <pre>_______________________________________________</pre>
                                  <pre>Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></pre>

                                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:#888888"><br>
                                      <br>
                                    </span></p>
                                  <pre><span style="color:#888888">-- </span></pre>
                                </div>
                                <pre><span style="color:#888888">[]&#39;s</span></pre>
                                <pre><span style="color:#888888"> </span></pre>
                                <pre><span style="color:#888888">Junior Polegato</span></pre>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                  KHOMP: completa linha de placas
                                  externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                  Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP
                                  com R2, ISDN e SS7;</p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">Intercomunicadores
                                  para acesso remoto via rede IP.
                                  Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                  ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de
                                  Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.<br>
                                  Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI
                                  ou PCI Express.<br>
                                  Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk -
                                  Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                  Para remover seu email desta lista,
                                  basta enviar um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS,
                      GSM e E1;<br>
                      Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN
                      e SS7;<br>
                      Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP.
                      Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1
                      para R2, ISDN e SS7.<br>
                      Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI
                      Express.<br>
                      Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar
                      um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></p>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
            <br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
            Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;<br>
            Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conheça
            em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2,
            ISDN e SS7.<br>
            Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.<br>
            Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar um email em
            branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <br>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre>_______________________________________________
KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;
Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;
Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.
_______________________________________________
ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.
Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.
Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.
_______________________________________________
Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org" target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></pre>

    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </div>

<br>_______________________________________________<br>
KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;<br>
Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conheça em <a href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
ALIGERA – Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.<br>
Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.<br>
Channel Bank – Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar um email em branco para <a href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br></blockquote></div>
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