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      se voc&ecirc; n&atilde;o tem cliente suficiente porque usa a mensalidade de R$
      400,00 ? <br>
      <br>
      Pelo que entendi esta &eacute; para mais de 40.000 consultas, se voc&ecirc; faz
      mais de 40 mil chamadas &eacute; meio dificil acreditar que voce n&atilde;o
      consegue pagar 400 .<br>
      <br>
      eu entendo que todo mundo quer ter acesso ao banco de dados, mas
      tamb&eacute;m entendo que todo mundo quer ter acesso porque quer
      economizar enviando chamadas entre operadoras para diminuir custo,
      se voc&ecirc; usa o recurso para diminuir seu custo &eacute; natural que exista
      algum gasto para isso , &eacute; como utilizar software livre, o software
      &eacute; gratuito, mas na hora que voc&ecirc; precisa de alguma coisa voc&ecirc; tem
      o custo com o profissional, se voc&ecirc; n&atilde;o quer pagar o custo de cada
      operadora nas chamadas ent&atilde;o voc&ecirc; precisa buscar rotas mais
      baratas, ou ent&atilde;o procure alternativas que existem no mercado para
      fazer as chamadas usando quem ja faz este servi&ccedil;o pra voc&ecirc; (as
      famosas rotas GSM) .<br>
      <br>
      No meu ver a pergunta que fica &eacute;, quanto custaria 40 mil chamadas
      feitas com origem na operadora X sem consultar a operadora de
      destino ? ent&atilde;o quanto voc&ecirc; est&aacute; economizando ?<br>
      <br>
      Muitos de n&oacute;s aqui vivemos das solu&ccedil;&otilde;es que desenvolvemos,
      precisamos ganhar dinheiro tamb&eacute;m, temos familia, temos outros
      custos , temos que manter nossos servidores, equipes,
      funcionarios.<br>
      <br>
      n&atilde;o quer consultar portabilidade, fa&ccedil;a amizade com um programador,
      conven&ccedil;a ele ( ou pague )&nbsp; a escrever um c&oacute;digo para identificar o
      toque de identifica&ccedil;&atilde;o de cada operadora, se der ring sem dar o
      toque entao voce desliga e tenta a outra :) , solu&ccedil;&atilde;o barata ,
      nunca vai ter que pagar por consulta (enquanto as operadoras
      disporem deste recurso &eacute; claro).<br>
      <br>
      N&oacute;s somos operadora e temos acesso direto ao BDO, existe um custo
      manter este equipamento, criar esta estrutura e tudo mais, ent&atilde;o
      eu preciso cobrar pra fazer valer o meu investimento, n&atilde;o &eacute; de
      gra&ccedil;a pra mim ent&atilde;o &eacute; natural que eu cobre para oferecer este
      servi&ccedil;o.<br>
      <br>
      Acredito que aqui nesta lista at&eacute; o mais entusiasta de asterisk
      possui preten&ccedil;&otilde;es profissionais com este software, provavelmente
      ele tentar&aacute; utilizar na empresa que trabalha, melhorando assim a
      estrutura de pabx da empresa dispondo de melhores recursos se ter
      que pagar os pre&ccedil;os de avaya, siemens ou cisco, ent&atilde;o se todos n&oacute;s
      estamos buscando uso profissional de algo, porque devemos achar
      que tudo &eacute; de gra&ccedil;a.<br>
      <br>
      Estes s&atilde;o meu dois R$ 0,02 de contribui&ccedil;&atilde;o para o assunto<br>
      <br>
      PS: desculpem o texto longo.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Em 09/09/13 21:37, Danilo Almeida escreveu:<br>
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    <blockquote
cite="mid:CA+hW1b0Lrn8A616hVYzpkyRMHqWf1z0vR_qjet3iuykYH6GfPA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">J&aacute; comprei a base do Magnus, &eacute; de confian&ccedil;a,
        problema &eacute; que como ainda estou come&ccedil;ando, n&atilde;o tenho cliente
        suficiente ainda pra manter a mensalidade de R$ 400 por m&ecirc;s
        (apesar de n&atilde;o ser caro)... se for pra ficar mais barato to
        dentro.
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          Prefiro deixar a base rodando local tamb&eacute;m, se tiver uma forma
          de deixar disponibilizado a base para download para os
          participantes (pagantes da base) tamb&eacute;m &eacute; bom.</div>
        <div>Se deixar liberado para todos vai virar festa.</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">Em 9 de setembro de 2013 18:39, Marcio
          - Google <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:marciorp@gmail.com" target="_blank">marciorp@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
          escreveu:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div dir="ltr">
              <div class="gmail_default"
                style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">O colega
                aqui da lista, Udson Assis da BRFone tamb&eacute;m fornece o
                servi&ccedil;o.</div>
              <div class="gmail_default"
                style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
                <br>
              </div>
              <div class="gmail_default"
                style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">O
                problema e que a maioria quer de gra&ccedil;a ou acha que faz o
                download uma vez na vida e a base vai se atualizar por
                passe de m&aacute;gica.</div>
              <div class="gmail_default"
                style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
                <br>
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              <div class="gmail_default"
                style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Em tempo,
                esse assunto como bem disse o Sylvio, &eacute; recorrente na
                lista. Isso mostra que a pesquisa no hist&oacute;rico n&atilde;o
                funciona ou n&atilde;o &eacute; usada.</div>
              <div class="gmail_default"
                style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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              <div class="gmail_default"
                style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">O valor
                cobrado tanto pelo Magnus quanto pelo Udson est&atilde;o muito
                bons mesmo!</div>
            </div>
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                  [...]'s<br>
                  <br>
                  Marcio
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                      ########### Campanha Ajude o Marcio! ###########</div>
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                        href="http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/"
                        style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://sosmarcio.blogspot.com.br/</a></div>
                    <div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793"
                        style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.vakinha.com.br/VaquinhaP.aspx?e=195793</a><br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">Em 9 de setembro de 2013 17:11, <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:info@magnussolution.com" target="_blank">info@magnussolution.com</a>
                <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:info@magnussolution.com"
                    target="_blank">info@magnussolution.com</a>&gt;</span>
                escreveu:
                <div>
                  <div class="h5"><br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Tenho o melhor
                        pre&ccedil;o do mercado, claro que entre bases
                        confiaveis.
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          Ja conto com acesso por SIP, WEBService, e
                          download da base. E integro a qualquer sistema
                          baseado em SIP.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Posso fazer um bom desconto para o
                          participantes da lista, nem falar se receber
                          apoio em publicidade.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Att. Magnus</div>
                        <div>
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                                <div>On sep 9, 2013, at 5:46 p.m.,
                                  Sylvio Jollenbeck &lt;<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:sylvio.jollenbeck@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank">sylvio.jollenbeck@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                  wrote:</div>
                                <br>
                                <blockquote type="cite">
                                  <div dir="ltr">Pronto,
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; O valor cobrado pelo Magnus
                                      esta mais do que justo!</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Abs,</div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                    <br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">
                                      Em 9 de setembro de 2013 17:43, <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:info@magnussolution.com"
                                        target="_blank">info@magnussolution.com</a>
                                      <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:info@magnussolution.com"
                                          target="_blank">info@magnussolution.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                      escreveu:<br>
                                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                        style="margin:0 0 0
                                        .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                        solid;padding-left:1ex">eu tenho
                                        a base, direto da ABR, ja
                                        forneci gratuitamente para o
                                        pessoal da lista.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Mas por falta de parceria, para
                                        ajudar a manter, tive que dar de
                                        baixa o servi&ccedil;o gratuito.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        o tamanho da base compactada &eacute;
                                        de 100 MB<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        att . magnus<br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://www.magnussolution.com/portabilidade-celular.html"
                                          target="_blank">http://www.magnussolution.com/portabilidade-celular.html</a><br>
                                        <div>
                                          <div><br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            On sep 9, 2013, at 5:40
                                            p.m., Itamar Reis Peixoto
                                            &lt;<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:itamar@ispbrasil.com.br"
                                              target="_blank">itamar@ispbrasil.com.br</a>&gt;
                                            wrote:<br>
                                            <br>
                                            &gt; 2013/9/9 Neimar Avila
                                            &lt;<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:neimar@virtualsistemas.com.br"
                                              target="_blank">neimar@virtualsistemas.com.br</a>&gt;:<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; A Conta gratuita do
                                            Openshift n&atilde;o aguenta.<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; Possuo o BDO da
                                            Telein, n&atilde;o aceita importar
                                            em um postgresql por causa
                                            do<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; tamanho.<br>
                                            &gt;&gt;<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; Neimar<br>
                                            &gt;<br>
                                            &gt; qual o tamanho ?<br>
                                            &gt;<br>
                                            &gt; --<br>
                                            &gt; ------------<br>
                                            &gt;<br>
                                            &gt; Itamar Reis Peixoto<br>
                                            &gt;
                                            _______________________________________________<br>
                                            &gt; KHOMP: completa linha
                                            de placas externas FXO, FXS,
                                            GSM e E1;<br>
                                            &gt; Media Gateways de 1 a
                                            64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN
                                            e SS7;<br>
                                            &gt; Intercomunicadores para
                                            acesso remoto via rede IP.
                                            Conhe&ccedil;a em <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://www.khomp.com/"
                                              target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
                                            &gt;
                                            _______________________________________________<br>
                                            &gt; ALIGERA &#8211; Fabricante
                                            nacional de Gateways SIP-E1
                                            para R2, ISDN e SS7.<br>
                                            &gt; Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1
                                            e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI
                                            Express.<br>
                                            &gt; Channel Bank &#8211;
                                            Appliance Asterisk - Acesse
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://www.aligera.com.br/"
                                              target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
                                            &gt;
                                            _______________________________________________<br>
                                            &gt; Para remover seu email
                                            desta lista, basta enviar um
                                            email em branco para <a
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                                              target="_blank">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a><br>
                                            <br>
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                                        </div>
                                        <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                        KHOMP: completa linha de placas
                                        externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                        Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s
                                        para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;<br>
                                        Intercomunicadores para acesso
                                        remoto via rede IP. Conhe&ccedil;a em <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://www.khomp.com/"
                                          target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                        ALIGERA &#8211; Fabricante nacional de
                                        Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e
                                        SS7.<br>
                                        Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                        para PCI ou PCI Express.<br>
                                        Channel Bank &#8211; Appliance
                                        Asterisk - Acesse <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://www.aligera.com.br/"
                                          target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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                                        lista, basta enviar um email em
                                        branco para <a
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                                      </blockquote>
                                    </div>
                                    <br>
                                    <br clear="all">
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    -- <br>
                                    <span style="font-family:trebuchet
                                      ms,sans-serif">Sylvio Jollenbeck<br>
                                      <font size="1"><a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://www.hosannatecnologia.com.br/"
                                          target="_blank">www.hosannatecnologia.com.br</a></font></span><br>
                                    <img moz-do-not-send="true"><br>
                                  </div>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                  KHOMP: completa linha de placas
                                  externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
                                  Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP
                                  com R2, ISDN e SS7;<br>
                                  Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto
                                  via rede IP. Conhe&ccedil;a em <a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://www.Khomp.com"
                                    target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                  ALIGERA &#8211; Fabricante nacional de
                                  Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.<br>
                                  Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI
                                  ou PCI Express.<br>
                                  Channel Bank &#8211; Appliance Asterisk -
                                  Acesse <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://www.aligera.com.br"
                                    target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                  Para remover seu email desta lista,
                                  basta enviar um email em branco para <a
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                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS,
                      GSM e E1;<br>
                      Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN
                      e SS7;<br>
                      Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP.
                      Conhe&ccedil;a em <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      ALIGERA &#8211; Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1
                      para R2, ISDN e SS7.<br>
                      Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI
                      Express.<br>
                      Channel Bank &#8211; Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar
                      um email em branco para <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org"
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            KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;<br>
            Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;<br>
            Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conhe&ccedil;a
            em <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.Khomp.com"
              target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a>.<br>
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            ALIGERA &#8211; Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2,
            ISDN e SS7.<br>
            Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.<br>
            Channel Bank &#8211; Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.aligera.com.br"
              target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a>.<br>
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KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1;
Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7;
Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP. Conhe&ccedil;a em <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.Khomp.com">www.Khomp.com</a>.
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ALIGERA &#8211; Fabricante nacional de Gateways SIP-E1 para R2, ISDN e SS7.
Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.
Channel Bank &#8211; Appliance Asterisk - Acesse <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.aligera.com.br">www.aligera.com.br</a>.
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Para remover seu email desta lista, basta enviar um email em branco para <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org">asteriskbrasil-unsubscribe@listas.asteriskbrasil.org</a></pre>
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