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    Pessoal, vejam minhas considera&ccedil;&otilde;es:<br>
    <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 - Em mercados medianos, fica muito facil de colocar uma placa
    E1 de boa qualidade.&nbsp; Sabem o pre&ccedil;o de uma placa E1 da avaya,
    ericsson, alcatel, etc...&nbsp; Isso somente hardware, pois esses
    equipamentos vc tem que ter licensa p/ usar quantos canais quiser.&nbsp;
    Se quiser usar 10 canais, o pre&ccedil;o de licensa &eacute; um, 20 &eacute; outro e por
    ai vai..&nbsp; Tranquilamente chega facinho aos R$4000 uma placa
    licensiada c/ os 30 canais...<br>
    <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 - A garantia em de um suporte pelo fabricante &eacute; fundamental.&nbsp;
    Tenho um cliente que usa 4 linhas anal&oacute;gicas c/ placa da Khomp e a
    operadora era OI.&nbsp; O cliente mudou e a operadora passou a ser GVT.&nbsp;
    Pronto!! &nbsp; Minha URA parou de funcionar, apenas fazia liga&ccedil;&otilde;es e n&atilde;o
    recebia, n&atilde;o reconhecia tom de desconec&ccedil;&atilde;o etc... &nbsp;&nbsp; Liguei p/
    khomp, acessaram remoto, geraram log de tudo quanto &eacute; jeito e o
    problema foi solucionado!&nbsp; Alteraram cad&ecirc;ncia, tempo de ring, e
    outras coisas que nem sei.....&nbsp;&nbsp; Mas acertaram e est&aacute; tudo ok. <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Imagina um fornecedor Chin&ecirc;s?!?!?<br>
    <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Eu concordo c/ o Sylvio que pre&ccedil;o &eacute; o fator preponderante p/ se
    bater o martelo, mas tudo tem que ser falado ao cliente.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Lembrando que realmente &eacute; dif&iacute;cil em uma compara&ccedil;&atilde;o direta bater
    pre&ccedil;o c/ Intelbras, Leucotron e outras nacionais que n&atilde;o sejam IP e
    n&atilde;o precisam do servi&ccedil;o IP.&nbsp; Na minha vis&atilde;o o Asterisk se torna
    interessante quando se precisa usar os servi&ccedil;os IP&acute;s.&nbsp;&nbsp; E se torna
    muito competitivo(tanto pre&ccedil;o quanto produto final) quando a demanda
    &eacute; call-center!&nbsp; Ai n&atilde;o perdemos neg&oacute;cios e gra&ccedil;as a Deus que
    plataformas Avaya, Ericsson, Alcatel e outras custam bem caro!!!&nbsp;&nbsp;
    Que continuem caro !!!<br>
    <br>
    No mais, bons neg&oacute;cios e sucesso a todos!!&nbsp; E vamos em
    frente...........<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Em 10/02/2014 11:47, Sylvio Jollenbeck escreveu:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAJUmh9J5CcFzACAd0-QX29tjiTbnTif=7NnA60qPc6LUQOgRyQ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">simples! pre&ccedil;o!
        <div>o cara compra 30 chinesas - metade d&aacute; pau. com as 15 que
          sobrou ele n&atilde;o compraria 3 placas nacionais !</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">Em 10 de fevereiro de 2014 11:37,
          Ricardo Landim <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:pangole@bol.com.br" target="_blank">pangole@bol.com.br</a>&gt;</span>
          escreveu:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div dir="ltr">Aquelas tdm410 chinesas s&atilde;o terr&iacute;veis.
              Principalmente as FXS.
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>At&eacute; hoje nunca usei uma chinesa de qualidade... n&atilde;o
                sei como essas empresas ficam no mercado e acabam
                conseguindo quebrar outras.&nbsp;
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              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div class="">Em 10 de fevereiro de 2014 10:22, Sylvio
                  Jollenbeck <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:sylvio.jollenbeck@gmail.com"
                      target="_blank">sylvio.jollenbeck@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                  escreveu:<br>
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                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  <div dir="ltr">Josu&eacute;,
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                      <div class="h5">
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                        </div>
                        <div>&nbsp; &nbsp;Sangoma &eacute; muito boa, mas as chinesas
                          est&atilde;o dominando! Logo, logo ela abre as pernas
                          para o mercado Asterisk! &Eacute; s&oacute; olhar para o
                          hist&oacute;rico dessas duas empresas Red Fone
                          (revolucionou o TDMoE) e Pika (AMD), entre
                          outras..., ambas quebraram! Inova&ccedil;&atilde;o &eacute; tudo,
                          mas pre&ccedil;o "infelizmente" &eacute; o fator que faz
                          muitas pessoas baterem o martelo.</div>
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                        <div>Abs,</div>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">Em 10 de fevereiro de
                          2014 10:16, Josu&eacute; Conti <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:josueconti@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank">josueconti@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                          escreveu:
                          <div>
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                                style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
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                                    <div>Bom dia srs.<br>
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                                    Sylvio, acho que voc&ecirc; est&aacute; um pouco
                                    equivocado, a Sangoma Technologies
                                    est&aacute; firme e forte no mercado, ok?
                                    Inclusive com a mesma linha de
                                    inova&ccedil;&atilde;o de sempre.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Abra&ccedil;o a todos<br>
                                    <br>
                                  </div>
                                  Josue<br>
                                </div>
                                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                  <br>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                                    Em 10 de fevereiro de 2014 10:08,
                                    Sylvio Jollenbeck <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:sylvio.jollenbeck@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">sylvio.jollenbeck@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                    escreveu:
                                    <div>
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                                          style="margin:0 0 0
                                          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
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                                          <div dir="ltr">Ricardo,
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>&nbsp; &nbsp;Sim, Red Fone, Pika
                                              e logo logo a Sangoma!</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Abs,</div>
                                          </div>
                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                            <br>
                                            <div class="gmail_quote">Em
                                              10 de fevereiro de 2014
                                              10:05, Ricardo Landim <span
                                                dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pangole@bol.com.br" target="_blank">pangole@bol.com.br</a>&gt;</span>
                                              escreveu:<br>
                                              <blockquote
                                                class="gmail_quote"
                                                style="margin:0 0 0
                                                .8ex;border-left:1px
                                                #ccc
                                                solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                                                    <div dir="ltr">Bom
                                                      dia pessoal,
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>entrei no
                                                        site da redfone
                                                        (<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://red-fone.com/" target="_blank">http://red-fone.com/</a>) e
                                                        parece que a
                                                        empresa faliu.
                                                        Alguem tem mais
                                                        informa&ccedil;&otilde;es?</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Att,</div>
                                                      <div>Ricardo
                                                        Landim</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
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_______________________________________________<br>
                                                KHOMP: completa linha de
                                                placas externas FXO,
                                                FXS, GSM e E1<br>
                                                Media Gateways de 1 a 64
                                                E1s para SIP com R2,
                                                ISDN e SS7<br>
                                                Intercomunicadores para
                                                acesso remoto via rede
                                                IP e telefones IP<br>
                                                Conhe&ccedil;a todo o portf&oacute;lio
                                                em <a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                ALIGERA &#8211; Fabricante e
                                                desenvolvedor nacional
                                                de Solu&ccedil;&otilde;es para
                                                telefonia IP .<br>
                                                Gateway Sip, Conversores
                                                e Placas de 1E1, 2E1,
                                                4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou
                                                PCI Express.<br>
                                                Banco de Canais
                                                Anal&oacute;gicos &nbsp;&#8211; Appliance
                                                Asterisk<br>
                                                &nbsp;Acesse <a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a><br>
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                                                    color="#888888"><br>
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                                                <br>
                                                <br clear="all">
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                                                </div>
                                                -- <br>
                                                <span
                                                  style="font-family:trebuchet
                                                  ms,sans-serif">Sylvio
                                                  Jollenbeck<br>
                                                  <font size="1"><a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.hosannatecnologia.com.br/" target="_blank">www.hosannatecnologia.com.br</a></font></span><br>
                                                <img
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src="http://www.hosannatecnologia.com.br/pixel.fw.png"><br>
                                              </font></span></div>
                                          <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                          KHOMP: completa linha de
                                          placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM
                                          e E1<br>
                                          Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s
                                          para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7<br>
                                          Intercomunicadores para acesso
                                          remoto via rede IP e telefones
                                          IP<br>
                                          Conhe&ccedil;a todo o portf&oacute;lio em <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="http://www.Khomp.com"
                                            target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                          ALIGERA &#8211; Fabricante e
                                          desenvolvedor nacional de
                                          Solu&ccedil;&otilde;es para telefonia IP .<br>
                                          Gateway Sip, Conversores e
                                          Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
                                          para PCI ou PCI Express.<br>
                                          Banco de Canais Anal&oacute;gicos &nbsp;&#8211;
                                          Appliance Asterisk<br>
                                          &nbsp;Acesse <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="http://www.aligera.com.br"
                                            target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a><br>
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                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <br>
                                </div>
                                <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas
                                FXO, FXS, GSM e E1<br>
                                Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP
                                com R2, ISDN e SS7<br>
                                Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto
                                via rede IP e telefones IP<br>
                                Conhe&ccedil;a todo o portf&oacute;lio em <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://www.Khomp.com"
                                  target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                ALIGERA &#8211; Fabricante e desenvolvedor
                                nacional de Solu&ccedil;&otilde;es para telefonia IP .<br>
                                Gateway Sip, Conversores e Placas de
                                1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI
                                Express.<br>
                                Banco de Canais Anal&oacute;gicos &nbsp;&#8211; Appliance
                                Asterisk<br>
                                &nbsp;Acesse <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://www.aligera.com.br"
                                  target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a><br>
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                          <div>
                            <br>
                            <br clear="all">
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            -- <br>
                            <span style="font-family:trebuchet
                              ms,sans-serif">Sylvio Jollenbeck<br>
                              <font size="1"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://www.hosannatecnologia.com.br/"
                                  target="_blank">www.hosannatecnologia.com.br</a></font></span><br>
                            <img moz-do-not-send="true"
                              src="http://www.hosannatecnologia.com.br/pixel.fw.png"><br>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS,
                      GSM e E1<br>
                      Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN
                      e SS7<br>
                      Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP
                      e telefones IP<br>
                      Conhe&ccedil;a todo o portf&oacute;lio em <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a><br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      ALIGERA &#8211; Fabricante e desenvolvedor nacional de
                      Solu&ccedil;&otilde;es para telefonia IP .<br>
                      Gateway Sip, Conversores e Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1
                      e 8E1 para PCI ou PCI Express.<br>
                      Banco de Canais Anal&oacute;gicos &nbsp;&#8211; Appliance Asterisk<br>
                      &nbsp;Acesse <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a><br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
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                  </div>
                </blockquote>
              </div>
              <br>
            </div>
            <br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            KHOMP: completa linha de placas externas FXO, FXS, GSM e E1<br>
            Media Gateways de 1 a 64 E1s para SIP com R2, ISDN e SS7<br>
            Intercomunicadores para acesso remoto via rede IP e
            telefones IP<br>
            Conhe&ccedil;a todo o portf&oacute;lio em <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.Khomp.com" target="_blank">www.Khomp.com</a><br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            ALIGERA &#8211; Fabricante e desenvolvedor nacional de Solu&ccedil;&otilde;es
            para telefonia IP .<br>
            Gateway Sip, Conversores e Placas de 1E1, 2E1, 4E1 e 8E1
            para PCI ou PCI Express.<br>
            Banco de Canais Anal&oacute;gicos &nbsp;&#8211; Appliance Asterisk<br>
            &nbsp;Acesse <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.aligera.com.br" target="_blank">www.aligera.com.br</a><br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
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          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <br>
        <br clear="all">
        <div><br>
        </div>
        -- <br>
        <span style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Sylvio
          Jollenbeck<br>
          <font size="1"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.hosannatecnologia.com.br/"
              target="_blank">www.hosannatecnologia.com.br</a></font></span><br>
        <img moz-do-not-send="true"
          src="http://www.hosannatecnologia.com.br/pixel.fw.png"><br>
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